HUGE 8-Player Trade between Pacers and Warriors

The Golden State Warriors have agreed to trade Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy, Ike Diogu and Keith McLeod to the Indiana Pacers for Al Harrington, Stephen Jackson, Sarunas Jasikevicius and Josh Powell, NBA front-office sources tell ESPN.com's Marc Stein.The trade is scheduled to be announced later Wednesday.SOURCE: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2733891

 

Yeah, I just saw this...that is quite a dang trade. I kind of like it for the Pacers a lil more, only because they get rid of the problem that is Stephen Jackson. They also get want I think to be the X-Factor in the trade, Ike Diogu. I think he has a lot of game in him and is still very young.But I think the Warriors will benefit well in the short-term as well.

 

Wow, that's a big ass trade.At first glance, I was like what kind of deal was that for the Warriors. But I do like the pickup of Harrington(which surprizes me that the Pacers dealt him after this offseason chase). Talk about giving up on him now twice. I think Sarunas could benefit the most under Nellie. Still don't like them giving up Diogu but I guess he wasn't really excelling under Nellie's system. I remember Pacers liking Murphy in the offseason, and how they were close to having a trade for him. Now they got him. I like the addition of Ike Diogu to their squad. Great pickup. Dunleavy should be a good 6th man for them. The Powell/McLeod portion seem like fodder to me.

 

I feel bad for al harrington. cause pacers showed that they really wanted/needed him and then they trade him halfway into the season.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BuLLzDoMaIn @ Jan 17 2007, 02:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I feel bad for al harrington. cause pacers showed that they really wanted/needed him and then they trade him halfway into the season.</div>Them signing him made no sense anyway, they didn't need him. But they were able to ship him for some nice players so in that aspect..they won.

 

This really caught me by surprise, because there really were no rumors about the two teams talking trade, but I like this trade for both sides.Golden State is obviously looking to be a factor right now rather than the future. Injuries aside, they have a nice offensive line-up with Baron Davis, Stephen Jackson, Jason Richardson and Al Harrington. They did, however, get rid of their future power forward in Ike Diogu, but like Rok said he wasn't really thriving in Nellie's system anyway. They also rid themselves of the headache of having Dunleavy on board because this kid hasn't shown any significant improvement since being drafted.Now, this trade is a little more interesting for Indiana. The first thought that popped into my mind as I read over the news was that this will probably set up a JO trade in the offseason, because Indiana obviously gave up proven talent (and some headaches) for some younger talent. I really don't see this line-up doing any damage in the East this year, but I could be wrong. Nevertheless, JO has publicly stated that if he can't get the job done this year with Indiana, both he and the franchise would be better off parting ways, and that is what I see happening at seasons end unless this line-up really gels together.

 

Dunleavy Will probably start with granger now that harringon and jackson are gone. but the warriorswill have a deep Shooting guard/small forward group with matt barnes pietrus harrington and stephen jackson. I just hope al harrington starts and doesn't come off the damn bench.

 

Interesting deal indeed, I really don't see either team benefiting to much from this though. Diagu has some potential, but he's going to be behind O'Neal now so his minutes could drop. the Pacers also traded away two guys which they fought for the past two offseasons, which has me wondering what Larry Bird is really doing in Indy.

 

I didnt get to post how I felt about it because I was at school and had to leave but this was such a shocker...I would of NEVER expected this deal to happen...

 

Whoa, pretty big deal here.I really think GS is taking a risk with Jackson tho. Good Luck to both teams.

 

Jamaal TinsleyMarquis DanielsDanny GrangerTroy MurphyJermaine O'NealBaron DavisJason RichardsonMickael PietrusAl HarringtonAndris BiedrinsTroy Murphy- Watch out for Troy Murphy, he is going to tear it up in an Indiana Pacers uniform.Troy Murphy's style of play is perfect for The Eastern Conference, he is going to put up great scoring and rebounding numbers playing alongside Jermaine O'Neal. He has always been a double double threat for Golden State, expect him to take his scoring to the next level. Murphy hasn't been healthy all season, when he gets healthy... watch out.Ike Diogu- He is going to add defensive toughness to the Indiana Pacers bench, him and Jeff Foster are going to add a great defensive spark when they sub into the game. Working with O'Neal will improve his offensive game.Keith McLeod- A human lightning bolt, he's extremely quick on the fast break. He is effective when given a substantial amount of playing time. I liked what he brought to Utah last season. He will get a decent amount of playing time behind Jamaal Tinsley.Mike Dunleavy- Dunleavy is going to strengthen the scoring off the Pacers bench. He's a good shooter, he has good court vision, he's a smart player. His inconistency can be frustrating at times, Following his games this year you never know what to expect. He could score 26 or 6. Al Harrington- Golden State has to be happy to finally add Harrington to their roster. They tried extremely hard during the off season to get him into a Warriors uniform. They have been trying to make a deal for him all season as well. I like Al Harrington's offensive game, he can do many things with the ball in his hands. He's not a one dimensional scorer. The main issue with Harrington is his inconsistency.Stephen Jackson- He's not going to be happy about sitting on the bench in Golden State. He can fill up an offensive stat sheet every single game. He's a good shooter, can attack the basket, get to the free throw line.Josh Powell- He's a hustle player off the bench, he's a tough defender and rebounder. He should crack the rotation despite Matt Barnes stellar play this year. Sarunas Jasikevicius- It's going to be hard to find playing time behind Monta Ellis and Stephen Jackson. When he's on the court he will give you solid scoring and shooting off the bench.

 

Wow, this is a big deal, and totally unexpected. I agree that is does work out well for both teams:IndianaFor short term, this helps them a little bit, but they also get a guy that has pretty solid upside in Diogu. I still think Ike Diogu is going to be a pretty good player in this league. I never really liked Dunleavy, but he is a well-rounded player that fits in Indiana's system better than Jackson did. Troy Murphy's contract is big, but he's a double-double guy. He's actually what Austin Croshere should have been for them. McLeod won't play a ton of minutes, but he's not bad for a 3rd string point guard.Golden StateWell, they get a lot of talent. Al Harrington is obviously the best player in this deal, and they got him. He can play the 4, the 3, he has range, and he can post up. He runs. He'll fit great with Golden State. Jackson is a good scorer and he's very athletic. Also, having Jasikevicius' shooting will be a plus for the Warriors. I really like this deal for them. This gives them a good player at the 4 position, a scorer (which means they'll have a good player off the bench), and shooter. They became a better team by making this deal.I'm a little bit surprised that Golden State got rid of Diogu already, but at the same time I'm not because he doesn't fit their style and he was kind of in Nellie's doghouse. I think he'll definitely be successful in Indy.Again, totally unexpected deal, but it works out for both sides.

 

This is an interesting trade. No team is going to be that much better. I think it's obvious that Golden State traded away players that didn't fit their system. Jason Richardson is having a ton of injury problems this season so Stephen will fill in as the perimeter scorer until he gets back. Al Harrington will do what he does and score from all over the place. I think this trade shows you that Golden State was not all that excited about Ike Diogu and his future. I don't think Troy Murphy is that good of a player, I think Jeff Foster is the much better defender but Murphy can score. Larry Bird likes Mike Dunleavy, Dunleavy was just not liked by Nellie at all in Golden State, maybe he finds a nitch in Indiana. Sarunas is a throw in, he can shoot the ball but does little else. I think the Warriors make out better because they added veteran guys who fit the style. The Pacers didn't add a defensive presense. Troy Murphy will be interesting to watch.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jan 17 2007, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is an interesting trade. No team is going to be that much better. I think it's obvious that Golden State traded away players that didn't fit their system. Jason Richardson is having a ton of injury problems this season so Stephen will fill in as the perimeter scorer until he gets back. Al Harrington will do what he does and score from all over the place. I think this trade shows you that Golden State was not all that excited about Ike Diogu and his future. I don't think Troy Murphy is that good of a player, I think Jeff Foster is the much better defender but Murphy can score. Larry Bird likes Mike Dunleavy, Dunleavy was just not liked by Nellie at all in Golden State, maybe he finds a nitch in Indiana. Sarunas is a throw in, he can shoot the ball but does little else.</div>I actually think that Diogu had an excellent rookie season, and I think he's going to be a good player. But Nellie's up-tempo style killed him. That's not his game, he is much more effective in a halfcourt game where he has time to get position, post up, get there in time for offensive rebounds, etc. His game is not "get a rebound, get the ball to Monta or Baron, watch the other 4 guys run." That's why I think he's going to succeed in Indiana, they are much more of a halfcourt set team. I really like the future forward combo of Granger and Diogu.Foster is the much better defender than Murphy, I don't think anyone would ever even think of debating that. But Murphy is a double-double threat every night, and he can stick it from deep. He will compliment JO so well. They'll have JO in the post, why Murphy runs outside. That clears space for JO to work because Murphy's defender won't be there to help out his teammate defend Jermain. And if he does decide to help, all JO has to do it dish it outside to Murphy to nail a 3. I just think that he compliments JO so well.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jan 17 2007, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I actually think that Diogu had an excellent rookie season, and I think he's going to be a good player. But Nellie's up-tempo style killed him. That's not his game, he is much more effective in a halfcourt game where he has time to get position, post up, get there in time for offensive rebounds, etc. His game is not "get a rebound, get the ball to Monta or Baron, watch the other 4 guys run." That's why I think he's going to succeed in Indiana, they are much more of a halfcourt set team. I really like the future forward combo of Granger and Diogu.Foster is the much better defender than Murphy, I don't think anyone would ever even think of debating that. But Murphy is a double-double threat every night, and he can stick it from deep. He will compliment JO so well. They'll have JO in the post, why Murphy runs outside. That clears space for JO to work because Murphy's defender won't be there to help out his teammate defend Jermain. And if he does decide to help, all JO has to do it dish it outside to Murphy to nail a 3. I just think that he compliments JO so well.</div> Yeah, Troy Murphy's killed the Bucks will his outside shot. I wonder what the Pacers rotation is going to be with all these guys.

 

I think the pacers actually got worse with this trade. the only good that they got out of the deal was ike diogu, everyone else is garbage. diogu is gonna be a really good player in a few years. he hasn't gotten much minutes this year but when he does he produces. the guy is a really good athlete and can score down low and rebound.dunleavy has been a disappointment from day 1. he can shoot but he just isn't that good. he was good with duke but we all know that playing at duke means you suck in the nba unless your name is elton brand or shane battier :shifty2: . troy murphy, I don't know what happened to him. I remember a few years ago he was tops in the nba in rebounding but now he's just bad. is he hurt?who the hell is keith mcloud?how much more offense do the warriors need? they got baron davis and j rich (when he comes back from his injury) stephen jackson is a headcase and causes problems everywhere he goes but he's a damn good player. al harrington as well. he's a mismatch because he can play PF or SF.

 

Great deal for Indiana... they do lose Al, but wow..Murphy and Diogu. Both big guys that were really needed in Indy.Too bad the Warriors still won't do anything in the west even with BD, J-Rich, Jackson and Al.

 

God damn it. Now I have to update 2k7 rosters AGAIN. And my dynasty story won't be up to date Oh well.

 

I agree with Tony, Troy Murphy will increase his stats in Indiana. He will get more looks, and he will be a solid fantasy pickup.Remember, the Warriors were front runners to get Al Harrington in the off-season. Now that he's on the team, the Warriors got what they want.This could be just the start of the rebuilding of the Pacers. They have Diogu, they might trade JO now.

 

Hated this at first for the pacers but now I love it.One year from now your looking at a potentially deadly offensive rotationc JOpf Murphsf dunleavysg grangerpg tinsleywith diogu foster and shawne williams who can all be great 6th men. I see shawne williams becoming a great player off the bench in the future more sooner than later. Great balance on that offense.