I'd have more respect for Coach McMillan

... if he occasionally got a 'T' for yelling at a ref or if he made comments in the post-game that got him a fine. I'm so tired of his defeatist "it won't do any good" mentality. Bullshit it won't do any good. The refs are human. If you light into them once in a while they'll have to start paying closer attention to their calls and non-calls. Popovich does it. Jackson does it. Sloan does it.

Not to mention it would have a side effect of letting his players know that he will go to bat for them if he feels they are getting jobbed.

-Pop

 

Didn't he get a T 2 games ago?

I really did not see what good a T would have been yesterday after the dumb call on Rudy at the end of the game.

 

Yeah, not at the end of the game. Get one earlier to send a message.

-Pop

 

Occasionally this tactic can be whipped out as a way of rallying the troops so to speak, but on the whole ranting at the refs and getting Tee'd up mostly brands you as an asshat, and a whiner. I'm not opposed to Nate getting in the grill of the officials, but there is a fine line.

 

I can remember a number of times in the past where he's done that. It's certainly not a frequent occurance, but it has happened. I'd be interested in seeing some stats on Technical fouls on coachs. Doesn't seem to be tracked normally at ESPN or 82games.

 

I agree, at some point you have to go to bat for your guys. If Roy gets knocked down I expect someone to knock down a player on the other team. Same goes for Nate if he sees his team is getting raked on the calls he needs to take a stand for his players. That foul on Rudy happened right in front of Nate it shouldn't have been Rudy who got that T, Nate should have stepped in for his player.

 

I just did a five minute google search and poked around a few sites that came up but didn't find a definitive source for technical fouls called on coaches. It'd be interesting to see who the leaders were, as I'd imagine most of the leaders would come from teams that are deemed to get respect from the officials.

Maybe the collective wisdom and resources of the board will find a good list of technical foul leaders among head coaches?

I'd be more interested in seeing the stats from the full 2006-07 and 2007-08 season. Not enough games so far this year to create much of a pattern.

-Pop

 

The game came down to a few points. Do you really think Nate wants to give the Warriors more free throws when they made 33/35 last night? He is a smart coach. There is a reason he is coaching an NBA team and you're writing on a message board.

 

Because he played in the NBA? That's really the only reason he is a coach right now. The good news is at least Soda doesn't have a career losing record on the message boards.


You can easily make the argument that had Nate recieved a technical the Warriors might not have had that many FT attempts also

 

You're saying nate getting a T might have motivated the team to stop fouling and to get back on defense... I understand what getting a T can do to change a game, but when you have 21 turnovers, allow 22 fast break points and foul the team enough to shoot 35 free throws... A T is not going to magically make all that turn around.

 

I blame this loss on Shavlik Randolph. I think his tie was crooked, obviously ruining the teams chi and balance.

 

Sticking up for your team can motivate. Will it cure all, hell no but at least the guys know Nate will have their back. I get tired of seeing him shrug shit off, even after his star players are getting mugged. Sometimes it takes a fight (not meaning actual fight) to get someone to give you respect. There's a reason the refs show a certain amount of respect for the Sloans, Pops, and Jacksons of the NBA. I've seen Sloan literally walk on the floor and chew a refs ass without getting a T.

BTW you can't say we didn't lose that game because of the ref. Rudy would have gotten that ball and tied the game. I'm not saying it's all the refs fault but that one bad call made a difference in the game.

 

Think bigger picture here folks. I'm not just talking about last night's game. I see this as a pattern with Nate, that he's all too accepting of "that's just the way it is" when the officials job the Blazers.

-Pop

 

You might be right. However I could also see it having the opposite effect. Perhaps the tech leaders tend to be tuned out by Referee's and thus their complaints don't help them at all. I honestly don't know which it is. It'd also probably depend on the exact referees as well, so may be tougher to track down. Anyways, interesting line of thought.

 

Maybe at the start of the game, but it would have been very silly for Nate to purposely get a Tech. to "send a message" in the closing seconds of a game.

And I have a lot of respect for Nate. I think he is doing a very good job.

 

After the second Maggette flop Nate should have said something. Standing there and doing nothing after the third baffles me.

 

Huh?

Plus, even if he didn't feel his team was getting jobbed, which I find ridiculous on its face, he still should have stood up for LMA getting 3 fouls on flops by Maggette.

 

The truth is that the refs probably respect Jackson and Pop, Sloan and others more than they do Nate's opinion. Nate does not have the rep.

Neither does our Blazer team. Maybe never will. Our stars do not get the calls of other stars and so too our coach.

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