I'm too fat to post in the How To Wear Pants thread

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Denny Crane, Jul 6, 2014
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    Re: Hey further

    [video=youtube;M7fchtEJpy8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7fchtEJpy8[/video]
     
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    Re: Hey further

    I haven't read them yet, but it's not the first time hearing such analysis. I'm not sure how things will shake out, but it looks like we are starting to understand nutrition in a totally different way. I have seen a mounting pile of evidence that shows the link between sat-fats and cardiovascular disease was either over emphasized or simply incorrect. Most likely, there will shake out many causal links that often go along with the saturated fats instead of the fats themselves. Like simply having much higher total fats or higher caloric intake (just two ideas off the top of my head) but time and research will tell.
     
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    Hahaha that's so fucked up on so many levels. Rep
     
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  6. Denny Crane

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    Re: Hey further

    I was reading up on low carb diets. Atkins and South Beach. I had always considered those to be unhealthy because of the lack of balance in the diets.

    The big food industry was basically forced to go away from high fat in favor of carbs due to the fear of cardiovascular disease. It seems life expectancy has gone up, but the population is now obese which leads to a different set of problems.

    On the other hand, life expectancy could have gone up for a number of reasons. Like better tools and diagnostic abilities, better living through chemistry, less violent crime, less physical work.
     
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    Re: Hey further

    I had heard different. That the millenials are the first generation to have a shorter life expectancy than their previous generation. link
     
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    Re: Hey further

    I can tell you from my personal anecdotal experience, low carb diets are healthy, can help lose weight, but weightloss is not a given. I have done several including the Atkins, which was the most successful for me for about a month, but then I just stopped losing weight.

    What I am realizing is that a mix of low carb and calorie restriction is the way to go. And as far as carbs go, what types of carbs seem to matter very much, person to person. But most people sugar and wheat seem to be a couple of the worst. I don't worry at all about what type of fats I eat, but I do try to have a limited amount of fatty items, not because the fat is bad but because the fat is so high in calories.

    Exercise also has to be a huge part of any diet, especially one in which you wish to eat some high cholesterol foods. Before I was exercising, but still eating a decent diet, my Doc told me I was pre-diabetic and had high blood pressure. Since incorporating significant exercise (mostly cycling and hiking) into my daily routine, I have been checked at the doc, and although I am still 100lbs overweight (down 25lbs so far), I am no longer pre-diabetic and my blood pressure is perfect! In fact, after doing a full blood workup, the Doc told me I am in "shockingly great shape" for being as fat as I am.


    So as far as I can tell, a low carb modest calorie diet to lose weight, and an aggressive athletic routine for better health. Add those two together and that will leave you in much better shape in life. Below is a pic of me today at work, still in my bike clothes since I biked hard for 1.5h this morning.

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    That same style helmet saved my fathers life once when he was thrown 18 feet onto his head. The helmet cracked instead of his skull, he woke up in an ambulance with temporary amnesia, but I have no doubt that the difference between a bad concussion and death was that helmet.
     
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    Re: Hey further

    I hope its not the same helmet! But as someone who was hit by a car while biking and also ended up with a cracked helmet vs skull, I'd say they do protect your head.


    Dammit, you edited your post.
     
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    No, I was editing in the word same "style" helmet when you posted you post.
     
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    Re: Hey further

    So I'm trying the low carb thing and it's not too bad. The hardest part is figuring out what kind of foods to eat.

    For low carbs, there isn't anything really good to satisfy a craving for something sweet. I've found a couple of things, though, that aren' too bad.

    I put two teaspoons of peanut butter, a teaspoon of zevia, and a teaspoon of low carb cocoa powder in a blender with a cup of almond milk. Yummy.

    I also found a low carb vanilla yogurt that tastes real sweet.

    Going out to eat at restaurants is really easy. Roast chicken and a salad and steamed vegetables. There's a place nearby that has these rattlesnake jalapeño peppers wrapped in bacon as an appetizer and they have great cheeseburgers (no bun, of course).

    The really tough one is breakfast. Fruit is high in carbs, and I really like it as a side dish for breakfast. Bacon, Sausage, and Eggs are great, but I'm probably going to get real tired of the same thing every day :)

    It's been 3 days and I've lost about 6 pounds. I'm aiming to eat 50g carbs or less, and I've been having a hard time breaking 20.

    I just read up on "net carbs" and I think I'm going to count those instead of raw carbs. But I'm only going to take raw carb # and subtract fiber. The sugar alcohol bit seems like a scam to me.
     
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    Re: Hey further

    For me, losing weight was 100% about just eating less. I could have lost weight eating only McDonald's, just gotta portion. That's not to say it would be the healthy way though.
     
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    Re: Hey further

    When you get older, it's harder to lose weight.
     
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    Makes sense.
     
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    Re: Hey further

    Sounds like you are off to a good start. The sweet thing is trying, but after a while it's not what bugs me, it's the veggies and fruit that are high in carbs. But once you have been good for three weeks, it actually helps to have an occasional cheat day, just make sure you never cheat two days in a row, that's just called not dieting. But for me, when I would do a cheat day I would go to a farmers market and buy fresh fruit and corn and satisfy all my cravings.

    For breakfast, you can eat some cottage cheese, and chop up just a small amount of fruit into it, helps give you some other choice than bacon and eggs.

    And Vanilla Gorilla is basically correct, portion size is huge. A combination of low carb and smaller portions kicks fats ass. The nice thing about low carb is after a period of time, people get satiated quicker from their meal, so done correctly a low carb diet naturally results in smaller portions.
     
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    Re: Hey further

    I keep looking at cottage cheese at the store and it's no better than 6 net carbs. That's a lot.

    Last night I mixed a package of Jenny-O ground turkey and turkey hot italian sausage links. Made burgers out of it and put provolone on top. A little mustard and it was great.

    I also found this device that is like a potato peeler but turns a zucchini into really long thin pasta-like strands. Sautéed in olive oil with some garlic and it was really good. Seems like it will be a great substitute for pasta.

    This yogurt is 4 net carbs, and is nice and sweet:

    http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-kroger-yogurt-carb-master-i112890
     
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    Spaghetti squash is your best friend Denny. Learn it, love it, marry it.

    Also not sure if you are using hydrogenated peanut butter, but if you are then you might as well be eating Taco Bell in a blender.
     
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