Injuries and the Association

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  1. _GB

    _GB Bulls Fan Staff Member Moderator

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    Stuff is circling in my mind as I read the sports sections....

    It's like deja vu. But the injuries are part of the game, right?

    Well...the commish isn't accepting that. Change appears on the horizon...

     
  2. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    "Everyone in this league has an interest in keeping our best players on the floor for more minutes, for more games, for longer careers."
     
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    If you prioritize number 3, number 1&2 automatically take place over the long run.
     
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    If you don't play your best players, you're... Not playing your best players.

    Duh.
     
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    _GB Bulls Fan Staff Member Moderator

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    I'm missing the correlation to the thread.
     
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    I quoted your article. Only the bits you cherry picked are relevant?
     
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    _GB Bulls Fan Staff Member Moderator

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    I'm talking about the "If you don't play your best players, you're... Not playing your best players." quip.

    I think the commishes goal is to have those best players around longer, and to get them to be healthy and available for greater portions of the seasons.
     
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    Except for the "on the floor for more minutes" part.

    Not playing players for fear of injury literally means "not on the floor, less minutes."

    Again, duh.
     
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    Let's not read something into it that's not there. There's a big difference between not playing a player for fear of injury, and overusing a player.
     
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    There's the bit about Rod Thorn in the article.

    You're completely mischaracterizing the article.

    Silver is considering less practice, more time off, fewer back to backs.

    NOT putting a lesser product on the court for more minutes.
     
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    _GB Bulls Fan Staff Member Moderator

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    Not sure how you read 'lesser product' into that...but..ok

    :smiley-neznam:
     
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    Lesser product is "more Kirk and Brooks" and "less DRose."

    4 minutes less DRose a game is 4 minutes more inferior product.
     
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    By that logic, the league should be investigating ways to keep their superstars on the court more, not less.

    Except this is is a very notable season in that no player played more than 3000 minutes. Why?

    :emotions:
     
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    The league IS investigating how to keep its superstars on the court more.

    Your own article says so.
     
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    BTW, in Thibs' 5 seasons, only two players played 3000 minutes in a season, both in 2010-11. Rose and Deng. We lost in the ECF after a league best 62 wins.
     
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    Clearly, the times they are a changin'.

    Wilt Chamberlain, the best player on the planet when I was a kid, averaged 3,200 minutes/season over a 15-year career.

    Steve Kerr's Warriors is at the forefront, using electronic monitors on his players to assist him in deciding when his players need a rest:

    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer...devices-to-monitor-players-while-on-the-court

    Cool shit.
     
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    Nope. You're reading something into it that's not there. He's talking about time lost to injury, not increasing the playing time from night to night.

    BUT...we shall have to agree to disagree.

    Oh, by the way, here's a transcript of his press conference so you can see the context.

     
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    The article actually addresses that, but I'm not really up for another Thibs debate. He's gone.

     
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    Ron Adams seems to fit in quite well there. I wonder why the Bulls didn't like him?

    Wearable tech is great. Wearable tech with average coach and average talent = average team.

    Take away Draymond and Curry and double the wearable tech and you have a lottery team.
     
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    32 minutes is arbitrary. Per 82 games is arbitrary. By definition, cherry picked data.

    Two Bulls players played 3000 or more minutes in the past 5 years. If players didn't play 82 games, they were rested.

    Those are the facts.
     

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