Is Allen Crabbe a long term piece?

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  1. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    So I think most of us have been pleasantly surprised by Crabbe this season. For reference, he's averaging 9/2/1 on 49/44/86 shooting splits which is insane. (TS is 59%). Per 36 that is 14/3/2 which is pretty much the same as Wesley Matthew's career PER36 numbers. Obviously he doesn't bring Matthew's defense or the same volume 3pt shooting to the table but he is solid most of the time. He's becoming more consistent as well. His shooting percentages would likely drop with increased usage but I think he's carved himself a good niche on this team. Most people might say they want to start Crabbe over CJ but I think I would try starting him for Aminu. Crabbe is a legit threat from 3.

    Crabbe is only 23 and a RFA this offseason. With the emergence of the "3 & D" type players what kind of value does he have on the market? IF he keeps this up over the course of the season (and that's a big IF), I could see him getting something like a 4/40 deal, which is insane to even think about but really isn't that crazy when you consider the amount of money similar type players like Khris Middleton (4/70) and Iman Shumpert (4/44) got.

    $10 million per year for Crabbe.....god damn that would be insane.
     
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    SIeepwalker The lone sane poster

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    I thought he was a good defender ?
    Well he's one of my favourite players on the team right now, I definitely want to keep him.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Crabbe is definitely a keeper, unless we are forced to include him in a trade.

    Thanks for posting the stats.

    I'd like to see his stats for the last 10 games.

    :cheers:
     
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    I think he could be a Danny Green for us.
     
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    With the new salary cap, 10 million per year would be comparable to what we signed Matthews to away from Utah imo. And with the progression I've seen from crabbe, I think I'd probably match. I love what I've seen and I think he will get even better
     
  6. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Crabbe fouls a lot....and not the good kind. He likes to ride up behind shooters. Loses his man from time to time. Solid for sure though with potential to improve.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Well in the last 5 he's at 15/2/1 in 28 minutes on 55/53/86.

    So....yeah. Obviously not sustainable though. Henderson is slowly being phased out of the rotation because of how well Crabbe is playing, and that's the way it should be. (Hendo didn't even play last night)
     
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    We need to trade Hendo and Kaman. I have to believe they could help some fringe playoff team that needs veterans, like Milwaukee or Sac.
     
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    Blazers Roy Well-Known Member

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    Last year i preferred him over Batum, of course he is a long term piece.

    The skeleton for the future (imo) is:
    Dame
    Crabbe
    Davis
    Plums
    Aminu (?) [you got to have a good,tall wing defender].

    I'd trade all the rest for a legit young all-star who plays on both ends if i could.

    I love CJ and i will always hunt down his game videos on Youtube, but he and and Lillard can't work on defense.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    I keep looking at rosters and barring any season ending injuries, I don't see any team that would need Kaman OR Hendo.

    Best I could do was:

    Kaman to Detroit for filler (Jodie Meeks? Joel Anthony?) and a 2nd rounder.

    Hendo to NYK for Derrick Williams/Vujacic/2nd.

    No one really needs a black hole spot minutes center and a mid range gunning SG.
     
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    Playing above his contract but moveable in the right trade if we consolidate our prospect for another lotto pick or star.
     
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    Crab is much better offensively than Bowen. I dont see the comparison
     
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    A big no to Derrick Williams.....
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    He's a team option (expiring). The 2nd is the main prize....
     
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    He could be our Tony Allen.
     
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    Fair enough. If he is a revolver okay, but he is not a good part of the future in my opinion.
     
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    I've never understood CJ starting at the 2 over Crabbe...this is the one thing that makes me think he's likely to be involved in a trade. I like Crabbe and I'd keep him.
     
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    Prolly the most perfect comparison
     
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