I was reading the ATF Quarterly Championships (great debate thus far, and I suggest you check it out), and something H.ayes said made me think about the future of NCAA basketball. At the end of his opening statement, H.ayes praised the NCAA and said he admired the purity of the game and how they played to win rather than to collect a paycheck. This really made me wonder what will happen to the NCAA when the age limit goes into affect. Usually when a player's only intentions are to make money, he will try to bypass college and make the jump straight to the NBA. What will happen to the college game when these players who are just concerned about money start wearing Kentucky and Louisville uniforms as opposed to Lakers and Celtics uniforms? We've always asked for the most talented kids to come to the NCAA, but the effect they have on the game may be entirely different than the effect we are expecting. I think you may see players, such as Sean Banks, who have a me-first attitude and want to showcase their skills to NBA scouts. Players like Banks can disrupt a whole team and cause enough turmoil to send a very talented team like the University of Memphis to the NIT. I just thought I'd bring this topic up for discussion, because I don't think that enough people are talking about how the age limit could effect the NCAA in a negative way.
Of course, there are down sides to the new NBA age limit. For example, say a new high school star at SG named Boogy Woogy is good enough to make the NBA lottery but can't b/c he's too young. So he decides to go to college. He goes to Oklahoma, and has a "me first" attitude because he intends to leave immediatly after his freshman season, no ifs ands or buts. In that case, he brings his whole team down by trying to do everything himself and trying to stockpile his stats. Takes all the shots, hogs the ball. He's too good for the coach to pull him off though. Then he leaves his team in the dust after his freshman season only to be undrafted.. What a story of boogy woogy. The NCAA will now have players who have intentions on seeing the millions that they can get in the NBA if they perform good in their first year, so that the "potential" label can be put on them. It will take a lot away from the team game that college has.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mr.Wade:</div><div class="quote_post">Of course, there are down sides to the new NBA age limit. For example, say a new high school star at SG named Boogy Woogy is good enough to make the NBA lottery but can't b/c he's too young. So he decides to go to college. He goes to Oklahoma, and has a "me first" attitude because he intends to leave immediatly after his freshman season, no ifs ands or buts. In that case, he brings his whole team down by trying to do everything himself and trying to stockpile his stats. Takes all the shots, hogs the ball. He's too good for the coach to pull him off though. Then he leaves his team in the dust after his freshman season only to be undrafted.. What a story of boogy woogy. The NCAA will now have players who have intentions on seeing the millions that they can get in the NBA if they perform good in their first year, so that the "potential" label can be put on them. It will take a lot away from the team game that college has.</div> I like your Boogy Woogy character, only thing wrong is scouts will look at him as a ball hog and automatically label him a Marbury or Iverson type player, but back to the topic, I thought the age limit should have been like it is in the NFL, you can't leave until you've been out of high school for 3 years. Then I would be able to see the Lebron James's and Amare Stoudamire dominate college B-Ball, but they just put College B-Ball in a delema that will just hurt them. I also know if there was a Boogy Woogy guy, not only that guy would have a weird name but he would have a seat on the bench with that weird name on it. Lute Olson would bench him even if he is that good. He benched Salim Stoudamire against Marquette this year because of the lack of leadership, and not taking more shots. I was suprised by this move that a coach would want a player to force up shots. I only wish they will make a league for players who will make a jump instead of college, so we have players that stay 3-4 years in college that play for the love of the game. I really appreciate the way the college game is played, and I would hate to see it become like the NBA. I love the College game more than the NBA. When the crowds get loud because your team just got a dunk and the players are waving their hand upward to tell the crowd to get louder, there's nothing like it. See coachs like Lute Olson, Tubby Smith, and Coach K on the sideline with smiles is a different picture from Avery Johnson running to argue with the Refs only to slip right on his butt . I would love to see College ball stay the same.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post"> What will happen to the college game when these players who are just concerned about money start wearing Kentucky and Louisville uniforms as opposed to Lakers and Celtics uniforms? We've always asked for the most talented kids to come to the NCAA, but the effect they have on the game may be entirely different than the effect we are expecting. I think you may see players, such as Sean Banks, who have a me-first attitude and want to showcase their skills to NBA scouts. Players like Banks can disrupt a whole team and cause enough turmoil to send a very talented team like the University of Memphis to the NIT. I just thought I'd bring this topic up for discussion, because I don't think that enough people are talking about how the age limit could effect the NCAA in a negative way.</div> Interesting thoughts... With the new NBA age requirement going into effect it is a forgone conclusion that HS phenoms will go to college with one thing on their mind: NBA. Some will go to the NBDL directly out of HS but the majority will go to college because of the better media attention and coverage alone. Some will be "me" first players who care only about themselves, however they will be in for a rude awakening when they get to college, especially a top profile college who have a great coach. (i.e. Duke, UNC, MSU, Louisville, etc.) If there is one thing that the top college coaches don't put up with it is "me" first players. I guarentee that if a player like Sean Banks went to any of the schools mentioned above, and he was in it strictly for himself and could care less about the team, they would be riding the pine. Tom, Mike, Roy, and Rick would not put up with that crap. You either play team basketball and buy into thier system or you sit the bench. These high school phenom athletes have to think about that. if they play all into themselves and get benched, when June comes around the following year they might not like where they end up in the draft. If Coach K or Tom Izzo says you are "all into yourself" and "not a hard worker", then what do you think NBA scouts and GMs are going to think? Then again I could always be wrong about the last part ala Charlie Villanueva. The thing that interests me is whether or not these basketball powerhouses will look to recruit players that they know will "jet" after one year to the pros or whether they will look go get players who they know will at least stay for 2+ years.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Hunter:</div><div class="quote_post">Interesting thoughts... With the new NBA age requirement going into effect it is a forgone conclusion that HS phenoms will go to college with one thing on their mind: NBA. Some will go to the NBDL directly out of HS but the majority will go to college because of the better media attention and coverage alone. Some will be "me" first players who care only about themselves, however they will be in for a rude awakening when they get to college, especially a top profile college who have a great coach. (i.e. Duke, UNC, MSU, Louisville, etc.) If there is one thing that the top college coaches don't put up with it is "me" first players. I guarentee that if a player like Sean Banks went to any of the schools mentioned above, and he was in it strictly for himself and could care less about the team, they would be riding the pine. Tom, Mike, Roy, and Rick would not put up with that crap. You either play team basketball and buy into thier system or you sit the bench. These high school phenom athletes have to think about that. if they play all into themselves and get benched, when June comes around the following year they might not like where they end up in the draft. If Coach K or Tom Izzo says you are "all into yourself" and "not a hard worker", then what do you think NBA scouts and GMs are going to think? Then again I could always be wrong about the last part ala Charlie Villanueva. The thing that interests me is whether or not these basketball powerhouses will look to recruit players that they know will "jet" after one year to the pros or whether they will look go get players who they know will at least stay for 2+ years.</div> I don't think that's necessarily true. You'll occassionally see players like Villanueva or McCants on teams that have respectable coaches. Many coaches are just interested in the bottom line and they would play a selfish player if it meant winning. I'm not saying every coach is like that, but there are a lot more than you're alluding to. I don't think that players leaving after one year will affect the recruiting process either. Afterall, Duke went after LeBron James and Dwight Howard, right?
