And this coming from a Bulls fan, but really I think his leadership qualities are very overrated, as stupid as it may actually sound but from actually reading a lot from journalist,teammates, and biographies I actually think Pippen became more of a leader then Mj, although Mj was easily the greatest player ever and that drew respect, Pippen was more toward helping his teammates play better, making plays, and basically filling their PG role even if assist numbers dont tell that. He was also more of the spoken leader, as MJ prefered to often skip practices and not appear for before game shootarounds, Im not trying to Bash MJ, but with all the <Censored> you hear about Steve Francis,Stephon Marbury,and Kobe Bryant being poor leaders, you should at least hear about by many the greatest leader ever, and by all the greatest player ever.
Yes Mj is overated but hes still the greatest player of all time.People overate the guy to much.Mj really was a ballhog and thats why hes the scoring champ if players like Reggie Miller took as many shots as him they could have out done him in scoring.Jordans great leadership is also questionable.He makes his teamates better BUT he already had good teamates by side him so that can be debated that hes not a good leader and that a simply just had a good team.Which he did.He had one of greatest rebounders on his team in Dennis rodman in his championship run and Horce Grant another good rebounder.He also had Scottie Pippen a top 5 Sf by side him and the greatest all around player of all time.Scottie Pippen played better by him self without Jordan IMO.He also had one of the greatest 3 point shooters by side him in Steve Kerr.He had the best career 3 point percentage.Jordan had a great surrounding and had a great coach one of the greatest coachs of all time in "Phill Jackson".Oh yes sir Jordan is overated.
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He might have been a bit overated yes but take jordan out of the team and I guarantee they wouldn't have won 1 championship.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (HeatBasketball @ Feb 27 2006, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He might have been a bit overated yes but take jordan out of the team and I guarantee they wouldn't have won 1 championship.</div>You put Dwayne wade on the 1993-1994 team and they win the championship. Remember they replaced MJ with a CBA player and took the Knicks to game 7.As i have been saying the bulls of 1993 are underrated.
In terms of his personal leadership and personality, yes he was slightly overrated. He definitely had a huge ego and probably would've had the same problems Kobe has had if he played with another superstar with an ego as big as his. But he was still the greatest to ever play the game. As his career clearly shows, whatever flaws he had surely weren't deal-breakers.
Jordan a Ballhog? Why? Because he didnt average 10 assist a game? Come on now. You gotta be kidding me. I watched the Bulls play from 93 all the way up to Jordan retired and in that time I know Michael Jordan did not do all the work. Yes Jordan took a lot of shots but doesn't Iverson do the same? Doesn't Kobe do the same? Doesn't T-Mac Do the same? Yes. Why? Because they are the team leader. They are the star and when your the star player you are going to get the ball alot. That's just how it is. Besides not every team can be blessed to have the kind of line up Detroit has.
Michael Jordan's leadership qualities were vastly overrated. What does Kobe Bryant get crapped on every week for? He screams, yells, and disheartens his teammates. Well, what the heck did MJ do during most of his career? Exactly that. He was very hard to get along with, and really held his teammates up to a bar few could meet. Granted, he apparently lightened up over his final 4 years after his incredible performance as a baseball player, but his leadership wasn't great.Now is he overrated as a player? He is one of the greatest scorers ever, without question. Not even Jordan haters question his scoring. He is one of the greatest perimiter defenders ever, winning one DPY award and being named to numerous All Defensive teams. I don't know of another player who is a top 5 scorer ever, and arguably a top 5 defender ever. That right there is incredible, and whether you disagree or not, it is a fact that the Bulls without MJ never won a championship. There is a difference between being an elite team, and being a championship team. Ask Dallas, New Jersey (02 - 04), and even the final two Kobe/Shaq Laker teams: It means nothing if you don't win. However, the fact the Bulls might of been an elite team even without Jordan is very true, and that also overrates how much the Bulls needed him.In conclusion, was he overrated as a leader? Without doubt. Was he overrated in terms of how much his team needed him for success? Yes. Is he overrated in terms of his clutch play? No, he hit tons and tons of clutch shots, and is at the top of numerous playoff stat categories. Is he overrated in terms of his individual accomplishments? No. MVPs win awards due to team success, something Jordan's Bulls had. He even won some awards on mediocre Bulls teams, so he's won them both ways.Is he overrated in terms of his individual game? He could score, obvious through stats. He also shot over 50% most of his career, something most players, regardless of position, don't do today. Later on, he was a very good passer, even being a playmaker some games. He could play defence, shown through his numerous All Defensive Team selections and DPY award. His most famous move involved a low post move (fadeaway) , and his could score in anyway. In other words, there's nothing he couldn't do. He won, both individually (5 MVPs) and teamwise (6 Championships) That's the mark of the greatest ever. Were parts of his game overrated? For sure. Was his voerall game overrated? Not in the least
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Peja16# @ Feb 26 2006, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes Mj is overated but hes still the greatest player of all time. Jordan had a great surrounding and had a great coach one of the greatest coachs of all time in "Phill Jackson".Oh yes sir Jordan is overated.</div>that makes no sense. if he's overrated than how is he still the greatest of all time???PHIL JACKSON is the most overrated coach of all time. he had mj and scottie and kobe and shaq. i don't care who the coach is anyone could've won 9 titles with them. he ain't <Censored>. and for the record mj is not overrated. any idiot knows that.
Yes, MJ is EXTREMELY overrated. As for him purely as a player, he was not the best of all time. BUT, his leadership, clutch shots, determination, and ability to win and do whatever it took to maximize team's potential is unparallelled. That is why I believe all around, he is the greatest yet.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo061 @ Feb 27 2006, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You can be overrated and still be the greatest.</div>i just don't see that making any sense. tho if you're overrated it should mean that someone is better than you right?
Am I really reading this? Have we become so disconnected from the Jordan greatness to the point where people are calling him overrated? I'm sorry but I might have to end it all here. Goodbye BBW.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Feb 28 2006, 12:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Am I really reading this? Have we become so disconnected from the Jordan greatness to the point where people are calling him overrated? I'm sorry but I might have to end it all here. Goodbye BBW. </div>yea that's what i'm saying. why are we even discussing this? he's the greatest ever. no is better. how can he be overrated it just doesn't make sense to me.
You don't comprehend anything do you? You can be overrated and be the greatest. Michael Jordan is overrated. Can anyone explain to me how the Chicago bulls won 55 games without Michael jordan? Considering how they didn't have enough time to replace so they added some CBA Players.Wouldn't you think seeing as How Michael was so great and all his team would suck? Correction, they only dropped 2 games from the previous season. Had they added a proper player that team would've beaten the Knicks.Secondly can anyone explain to me what teamates MJ made better?If you cannot explain why then MJ is surely overrated. His impact on his team is overrated.
So since Micahel jordan is the best player in nba history wouldn't you expect more than a 2 game drop?
Who knows what happened that year...That was 12 years ago...we don't know the circumstances. I don't care to know. I know Jordan was the greatest ever because I watched him.
