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  1. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    Is the internet a powerful avenue for conservative social change? In other words, the news and TV media provide virtually no outlet for conservative news. Granted, FOX is a moderate news service, but many conservatives I speak with tell me that the local newspapers and TV news services simply do not address their point of views and they have turned to the internet. They opine that they are a very large but silent group and the fact that newspapers and TV outlets are losing readers/viewers is part & parcel of this.

    I'm not so sure I buy this, but it seems plausible.
     
  2. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    The news doesnt present my point of view either! I want to hear about how the US does not have enough socialism! FYI there is no way fox news is moderate! That's like saying MSNBC is moderate.
     
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    To a lefty, FOX is conservative. To a moderate (me), it's moderate. But nobody can effectively argue that 99% of print & TV media isn't deeply liberal. All I was pointing out is that people at work that are conservative tell me they have completely abandoned the Oregonian, local TV news and other cable news as it doesn't reflect their views. They now use the internet (I don't know what sites). That made me wonder if there isn't a grass roots conservative movement that is very silent but very large or growing.

    As to FOX, I've watched it a fair amount and they seem to be as hard on lefties as righties. I think the left is spoiled by the rest of the media being so far left that moderate news is an attack or something.
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    I'm going to have to disagree. Take a night and watch rachel maddow, i've watched glenn beck.
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    Never mind that "conservative social change" is an oxymoron, your basic premise is severely flawed by the fact that America is a drastically right-wing country compared to most of the world.

    FOX "news" is far-far-right propaganda. CNN is moderate-right. PBS is moderate.

    I am unaware of ANY major left-wing media in America, let alone a successful political party with major left views. The Democratic party is now moderate-right compared to where it was several decades ago and compared to the world.

    But to address your concerns, I doubt viewpoint has anything to do with the gradual obsolecence of the print media. Paper is slow and inconvenient, and cannot be updated/corrected at the drop of a hat.

    TV news seems to be doing fine viewer-wise, but if it ebbs it will due to the loss of trust that comes from it's attempts to draw viewers with showbiz glitz and glam rather than actual unbiased reporting of the facts.
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Yeah, instead of watching rachel maddow, try watching PBS news. That is DEFINITELY unbiased!
     
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    zєяσ Truth is beautiful

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    The news shouldnt be subjective. It needs to be objective.
     
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    Who? I'm a bit out of touch with news types.
     
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    zєяσ Truth is beautiful

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    Glenn Beck is a far right pundit.

    Maddow is a far left pundit.

    Though if I had to choose, I'd choose to watch Maddow. She's less emotional and less creepy. Plus she's hotter.
     
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    That's an interesting point. Europe is mostly socialist. China is communist. Central & South America is a mish-mash of socialism/communism/despotism. Africa is no man's land. You're probably right.

    You lefties fry me. Fox is clearly moderate. Now, PBS is also just left of moderate and my favorite news source. Both TV & radio.

    Your humor is terrific. The left is so bent on socialism/communism that it makes the euro's look conservative.

    You may very well be right. I no longer read The Oregonian as they are such hard core leftist agenda takes away their objectivity. Also, Canzano & Quick are clueless about sports!

    Another good point. Also, the New York Times comes into play.
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    please define Socialism, and then please define communism, and then please define conservative.
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    yakbladder Grunt Third Class

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    Interesting but not especially useful. As with most things in life, there are some gray areas and this fails to cover them.
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    of course not, but it would be able to tell if he's an obvious conservative or a moderate.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    If you're a guy, she wouldn't be into you. That being said, Ms. Maddow is one smart cookie, even though she and I disagree on most issues. Her FOX counterpart would be closer to Charles Krauthammer. Glenn Beck is more like Keith Olbermann, an over-the-top blowhard. Of course, Beck has a sense of humor about himself, which Olbermann does not.
     
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    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    yup, she is quite outwardly gay. I know, I :sigh: myself.
     
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    I've always equated Olbermann with Bill O'reilly. Glenn Beck on the other hand is in a category all his own...

    Also just by looking at Fox's show lineup, there is no way you can make case that they represent moderates. Personally I don't even bother with cable news anymore. OPB and NPR actually have discussions with guests about issues facing this country.
     
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    That works for me!
     
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    That was cool. It states I'm a borderline Centrist/Libertarian. Um, I can live with that.
     

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