Iverson for Carter and Nelson?

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  1. Erin

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    Rumor on WIP. Sixers trade Allen Iverson for Vince Carter. Toronto would also draft Jameer Nelson and ship him to us too. What do you guys think? I hope this doesn't go down. And it shouldn't since Billy said a ton of times that Iverson will be a Sixer and how JO came to Philly to coach AI.
     
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    I really hope it does go down living in PA I would love to see carter here even though I like AI. Then we also get home town hero jameer nelson. If I was the sixers gm I would do it in a second. Carter has had injuries, but so has AI. Carter is 6'7 AI is 6'1. Carter passes better than AI when he does pass. Also this would open up room for the sixers to trade Glenn Robinson.
     
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    This would be a terrible trade for Toronto. Iverson is just as injury plauged as Carter and losing the #1 pick is even worse.

    If this trade goes down the Raptors sure as hell won't be my favourite team anymore.

    Carter IMO has a much brighter future and is more of an impact player.

    Basically, from a Raptors fans POV this trade is TERRIBLE!
     
  4. DaAnswer3

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    This trade is terrible for the Sixers first off Carter has no heart. Has never proven anything Plus we allready said Iverson isn't going to be traded. Plus that we are not taking Nelson in the draft. We are taking Deng Okafor or Gordon in the draft and in no way do I want that no heart break my finger nail out 40 games Vince Carter.
     
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    i wouldn't never watch the raptors anymore if iverson is on the team
     
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    Carter having no heart is not true at all, just media talk, they want him to be KG, if Duncan was losing he'd have no heart too because he doesn't scream all over the court [​IMG]

    Anwyays I don't see the point, Carter will do just as much as Iverson, and doesn't dominate the ball as much, and then we lose a first round lottery pick too.

    Iverson is older, and Carter has take the team to the playoffs and farther before he got injured.

    Iverson is also older, he played less games this year, and he's been slowed down which doesn't bode well for him since he really isn't that good a shooter, so without the speed he's not the same.
    I wouldn't even want just Iverson for Carter because their's uncertainty with Iverson now, and Carter has been called too unselfish, that's not something that really goes with AI, and he's also older, it's not like he's going to take us to a championship.

    I'm not sure how the injuries will affect him, he's had injuries before but most times it's minor ones, and AI could stunt Bosh's development.

    This would benefit Philly and not really do anything for us but make us go over tha cap even more, and have Iverson's contract that pays him 21 million in 2008-2009 [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting DaAnswer3:</div><div class="quote_post">This trade is terrible for the Sixers first off Carter has no heart. Has never proven anything Plus we allready said Iverson isn't going to be traded. Plus that we are not taking Nelson in the draft. We are taking Deng Okafor or Gordon in the draft and in no way do I want that no heart break my finger nail out 40 games Vince Carter.</div>
    HA! That had to be one of the most incorrect posts i've ever seen, obviously you have not watched many Raptor games.

    Carter has a lot more heart than the majority of players in the NBA. You also said Carter has never proved anything, but a few years ago he brought his team within 1 shot of the Eastern Conference Finals, and with the team he had, that's a pretty damn good feat.

    You say he's injured all the time but if my memory is correct, Iverson sat out more games than Carter did this year, he only sat out 9.

    There is also no way your team is going to be taking Okafor, Gordon, or Deng, because all of those players will be taken before the Sixers first round pick comes around.

    No offense, but please research your facts or at least think before you post nonsense like this about my favourite player [​IMG].
     
  8. Martin

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    STFU! Don't talk who's better or who's worse! VC has had his injury plagued seasons and so has AI,they both may still miss a lot of games next season!
    I don't like this trade,I think these guys won't work out for teams they would play if this trade goes down and besides that AI wouldn't look good in purple and imo Vince wouldn't be prince charming in a Sixers jersey. [​IMG]
     
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    This trade is pretty horrible for the Raptors. First of all Carter would not be traded for Iverson straight up as of now and adding our draft pick to the trade (who is supposed to fill our needs) does not make any sense. Why don't we just offer you Chris Bosh and our Mascot as well?

    Heart goes a long way and people who haven't seen Raptors games cannot comment on Carter's heart. He may be a little too soft for my liking but after watching him game after game I know he has the guts to deliver the win when needed. Why trade one (supposedly) injury prone Carter for another injury prone immensley undersized shooting guard with a terrible attitude?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Why trade one (supposedly) injury prone Carter for another injury prone immensley undersized shooting guard with a terrible attitude?</div>
    That's what I was thinking, so they're both "injury proned", one is older, slowing down, undersized, and had a worse season the previous year, then you give a lottery pick and the younger, not undersized one that had better last season for the one that currently has more disadvantages?
     
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    Great pick for the sixers, but absoulutley no way for the raptors AI is a great player but not good enough for VC and Jameer Nelson who has a lot of potential, he would fit well with the raptors they needa point and he would do good there.
     
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    i hate people who say things like carter is over rated and shit. he has 2 bad season and people judge him on those seasons. any way this trade will never i repeat never happen on the facts that toronto is happy with carter phili is happy with iverson and both teams said that they want them as there franshice players and have no intention to trade them. but if this happenes then it would suck cause i have all of vince carter's jerseys and i dont wanna but new ones cause he got traded
     
  13. Midnight Green

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting thedude9990:</div><div class="quote_post">i hate people who say things like carter is over rated and shit. he has 2 bad season and people judge him on those seasons. any way this trade will never i repeat never happen on the facts that toronto is happy with carter phili is happy with iverson and both teams said that they want them as there franshice players and have no intention to trade them. but if this happenes then it would suck cause i have all of vince carter's jerseys and i dont wanna but new ones cause he got traded</div>
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Doug Smith:</div><div class="quote_post">
    AUBURN HILLS, Mich.?Vince Carter wanted Julius Erving to work for the Raptors but the legendary Dr.J didn't get a job. The question now is whether Carter will play for the team next season.

    While new general manager Rob Babcock says he doesn't want to trade the 27-year-old all-star and Carter has not publicly demanded a deal, there are whispers around the NBA that a trade is something not to be entirely discounted.

    At the Chicago pre-draft camp and at the NBA Finals, Carter's future in Toronto is open for discussion and, for the first time, the prospect of the Raptors at least exploring options is real.

    No league sources have said Carter has even privately intimated that he wants out of Toronto, but there are suggestions he's less than pleasedwith Erving not getting a Raptors front office job.</div>


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    Carter may very well leave toronto he is not happy with managment. Or the direction the team is heading. Also carter has had two injured years although he is still one of favorite players the team would definitly entertain trade offers.
     
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    I deffiantly wouldnt not like this trade first off its very uneaven for the Raps, if it was strait up AI for VC the Raps would have the advantage because to me AI has more value than VC does,both of these players arent the same as they once were.
     
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    Lmao. Are you kidding me? AI for Vince straight up is bad enough, but for us to throw in our draft pick, thats absolutely ludicrous.
     
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    I don't even know why we're talking about it, AI isn't going anywhere, for the zillionth time.
     
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    I could have sworn I heard this trade rumor before. Nonetheless, if the Raptors would be giving up Carter and Nelson for Allen Iverson, the Sixers would obviously have the upper hand. But if it's straight up, Iverson for Carter, neither team will have an advantage. Anyways, I think this rumor is as fake a rumor can get. This rumor is obviously a rumor started by a sports analyst whom is attempting to get his article in the headlines.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">That's what I was thinking, so they're both "injury proned"</div>

    But Vince Carter by far more vulnerable to injury. With that ailing ankle of his one more injury can quite possible be his last injury or he'll end up being the 6th man of a team. On the other hand, Allen Iverson is going to miss a game here and there, but once Vince Carter gets injured you can bet that he will most likely be done for the season.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">one is older, slowing down</div>

    Vince Carter + ailing ankle is equivalent of a 30 year old body. So the age factor for him and Allen Iverson basically cancels each other out. And how is Allen Iverson slowing down. Despite the fact of his horrendous injury plagued season how has he slowed down? Judging for his stats he's not longer averaging 30+ a game but his assist’s numbers and team oriented game has gone up.
     
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    I really hope this doesn't happen. I just can't see the Sixers without AI. And what's these rumors about Shaq comin to Philly..did anybody hear that? I hope not, I can't stand Shaq.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Love4TheKings13:</div><div class="quote_post">I really hope this doesn't happen. I just can't see the Sixers without AI. And what's these rumors about Shaq comin to Philly..did anybody hear that? I hope not, I can't stand Shaq.</div>

    Well, I don't want this deal either. But if Shaq really comes to Philly, that'll be really cool. I know that shaq is not that powerful like he was in 2001, but this AI & Shaq union can reach the championship. I do believe it.
    And in the western conference, Houston got T-mac & Yao Ming. There's gonna be an exciting season next year.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting That NBA Girl:</div><div class="quote_post">Rumor on WIP. Sixers trade Allen Iverson for Vince Carter. Toronto would also draft Jameer Nelson and ship him to us too. What do you guys think? I hope this doesn't go down. And it shouldn't since Billy said a ton of times that Iverson will be a Sixer and how JO came to Philly to coach AI.</div>

    From MSNBC Sports :
    Carter-for-Iverson report deemed false
    (yeah... I'm so gald to see this)

    WIP radio says report trade was in works never trueNBCSports.com news services Updated: 6:14 p.m. ET June 21, 2004A report of a possible blockbuster trade between the Philadelphia 76ers and Toronto Raptors was incorrectly attributed to WIP Radio in Philadelphia and is not true.

    The report, which Dime Magazine reported and attributed to WIP Radio, was simply banter between hosts on the radio, a WIP Radio spokesman said Monday.
     

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