Iverson to Pair with Garnett?

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  1. WildHundreds113

    WildHundreds113 JBB JustBBall Member

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    player minny can afford to move for ivo/additions
    As long as 1 of these players stays minny is okay.

    randy foye
    mike james
    rashad mccants
    ricky davis

    philly looking to move

    iverson
    webber
    korver( if they need to make a deal work)
    iggy (if they need to make a deal work)

    And ideas anyone?
     
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    Replace Hudson with Randy Foye the 76ers have no interest in Troy Hudson or his ugly contract.
     
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    I really hope the wolves get AI... Coz i really want KG to get a break...

    The best of luck to the wolves and KG in the AI sweepstakes

    76ers trade:
    AI

    TWolves trade:
    Foye or James
    Davis
    Jaric
     
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    It's kinda funny because AI and KG would be would be good for sales and viewers and it wouldn't surprise me if Stern was trying to add some kind of incentive to get this to go through. But the Wolves can't gut the franchise. The ultimate question is this.....if the Wolves are looking to win NOW, they may have to forgo the future (Foye). Right now, the Wolves put together a few good wins with their current roster and hasve been looking good in the block, defensively, and at guard play. I would expect them to come crashing back to earth but they do have some confidence in what they can do. They do have to remember....do they feel they can compete with the Spurs, Suns, and Mavs in the playoffs with this team.
     
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    I wonder how they would make that deal work. It has to be something like Ricky Davis contract + Mark Blount's contract + any one of Marko Jaric, Troy Hudson, or Trenton Hassell with a second rounder's type contract.

    Pretend Ai's contract is worth 75. He needs three 25's to equal AI's contract. Three of the starting roster have those deals... The only other guy who makes a lot of money is KG. The other contracts are too miniscule to trade for AI.

    I don't know if Minny wants to give up future first rounders because what happens if Garnett and AI end up hating each other and they end up losing and going to the lottery?
     
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    The Wolves have already traded this years first round pick to the Clippers. From reports I hear any offer the 76ers might even begin to listen to from Minnesota start with Randy Foye, Mike James becomes eligible for trade next week and his contract would need to be included as well. Although, the owner says they can't afford AI we all know Garnett is the one who has final say in Minnesota he can make anything happen.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">GameFace Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The Wolves have already traded this years first round pick to the Clippers. From reports I hear any offer the 76ers might even begin to listen to from Minnesota start with Randy Foye, Mike James becomes eligible for trade next week and his contract would need to be included as well. Although, the owner says they can't afford AI we all know Garnett is the one who has final say in Minnesota he can make anything happen.</div>

    Since when did KG have a say? I've seen you post this twice, but think back to when KG begged Minnesota to re-sign Cassell and Sprewell. They weren't listening then so I don't see why they would listen now. Minnesota is a small market team, having close to $40M in capspace on just two players would be tough for them to fill out their roster without going over the luxury tax.

    BTW - The pick they send to the Clippers is lottery protected.
     
  8. WildHundreds113

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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">

    BTW - The pick they send to the Clippers is lottery protected.</div>


    Is it a fact that if they get the 1-10 pick they keep it but if it is 11-? the clippers have rights?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">WildHundreds113 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Is it a fact that if they get the 1-10 pick they keep it but if it is 11-? the clippers have rights?</div>

    According to this article, it's lottery protected, not just Top 10 protected.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The first-round pick is lottery protected, so if Minnesota misses the playoffs again this season the Timberwolves will hang on to that selection.</div>

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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Since when did KG have a say? I've seen you post this twice, but think back to when KG begged Minnesota to re-sign Cassell and Sprewell. They weren't listening then so I don't see why they would listen now. Minnesota is a small market team, having close to $40M in capspace on just two players would be tough for them to fill out their roster without going over the luxury tax.
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    Although, they did not keep those players, it was the pressure that KG was putting on management that made them bring those guys in, in the first place. At this point the management knows KG is very close to possible demanding a trade so I doubt they would ignore his request to bring in AI, should he throw out an ultimatum to them in which if they didn't at least attempt to make a trade proposal he would leave.
     
  11. Chutney

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    You're making some pretty big assumptions there. If it came down to spending money they don't have or trading KG, I think they'd choose the latter.
     
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    Allen Iverson is a big game player. He's been carrying the 76er's and is emotional and determined.....when he has the ability to make a difference. If he knew he was lottery bound (which I believe he feels he is), he couldn't put in the same level of energy and faith. AI needs the ball in his alot and KG is unselfish. The two look like they would be a match of almost the hightest calibur (2nd to KG and Kobe), but at what cost? As of right now, the team chesmistry is flowing. We have a good rookie tandem in Smith (post offense) and Foye (point who can drive and shoot but has some growing to do), a 3 "big" rotation (Smith, Blount, and Griffen), Drivers (Davis, James, Hudson on occaison), Theives (James, Foye, Jaric).....I think you know where I'm going. I haven't seen KG with this much emotion before (even with Cassell and Spre). He was having a good time then, but it just seems that the chemistry as a whole is somewhat better with this team. Maybe I'm just excited about the 4 game streak, but they do look like a team. I think it was during the Jazz game that commentators were saying that the Jazz are a great team but don't have a go to guy in the clutch when they really need one and that may keep them from the title. The Nuggets failed because they didn't have anyone who could reliably score in the playoffs, so the opposition just doubled Melo and forced the others to beat them, and the rest of the Nuggets didn't seem to know what to do (so they had the reverse problem). Anyway, at what price could we get AI?
     
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    Philadelphia Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing

    Allen Iverson
    6-0 PG from Georgetown
    33.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 7.4 apg in 43.0 minutes

    Steven Hunter
    7-0 C from DePaul
    6.1 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.3 apg in 19.1 minutes

    Alan Henderson
    6-9 PF from Indiana
    2.5 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.2 apg in 10.3 minutes
    Incoming

    Mark Blount
    7-0 C from Pittsburgh
    11.3 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.2 apg in 27.7 minutes

    Troy Hudson
    6-1 PG from Southern Illinois
    9.5 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 2.9 apg in 22.1 minutes

    Randy Foye
    6-3 from Villanova
    No games yet played in 2005/06

    Mark Madsen
    6-9 PF from Stanford
    1.2 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 0.2 apg in 10.9 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -19.6 ppg, -1.8 rpg, and -3.6 apg.

    Minnesota Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing

    Mark Blount
    7-0 C from Pittsburgh
    11.3 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.2 apg in 27.7 minutes

    Troy Hudson
    6-1 PG from Southern Illinois
    9.5 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 2.9 apg in 22.1 minutes

    Randy Foye
    6-3 from Villanova
    No games yet played in 2005/06

    Mark Madsen
    6-9 PF from Stanford
    1.2 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 0.2 apg in 10.9 minutes
    Incoming

    Allen Iverson
    6-0 PG from Georgetown
    33.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 7.4 apg in 43.0 minutes

    Steven Hunter
    7-0 C from DePaul
    6.1 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.3 apg in 19.1 minutes

    Alan Henderson
    6-9 PF from Indiana
    2.5 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.2 apg in 10.3 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +19.6 ppg, +1.8 rpg, and +3.6 apg.


    Successful Scenario
    Due to Philadelphia and Minnesota being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Philadelphia and Minnesota had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

    how about this one...would you guys do it?
     
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    I kind of like the idea of Allen Iverson coming to Minny, and if that trade went down d-money I can't say I'd overly argue though it is HIGHLY doubtful.
     
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    Terrible trade from the Sixers standpoint, switch Madsen with Davis and it'd be much better.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You're making some pretty big assumptions there. If it came down to spending money they don't have or trading KG, I think they'd choose the latter.</div>

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Taylor Now Interested In Iverson
    10th December, 2006 - 12:09 pm
    Pioneer Press -
    On Friday, Glen Talyor said that there was no chance of Allen Iverson being traded to the Wolves, but on Saturday, he softened his stance.

    "I just think Allen Iverson on any team probably makes it better just because at any time, he's hard to stop," Taylor said. "You get towards the end of the game, he's a difficult player to stop. If you had some other guys around him and a guy like K.G. around him, it gives you some strong options at the end. He's a very unique player. A guy like him, (Phoenix's Steve) Nash, maybe (New Jersey's Jason) Kidd, these guys are very creative and probably would be helpful to almost any team with any combination around them.

    "McHale would have to find out if this is something Philly wants to do, how bad they want to do it. I would assume a number of teams would have some interest (in Iverson). It's not something you could just do very easily. (Garnett's) contract is so large, you'd have a lot of money tied up in two guys."</div>

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    Interesting that this comes on the same day in which KG said he would not mind playing for Chicago.
     
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    ^Already posted a thread.
     
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    That seems more like he's appeasing KG, verbally. Now Taylor can say that he was trying to give KG help and if they don't get him (which I doubt will happen) he'll say the situation didn't arise or Philadelphia was asking for too much. Its not much of a surprise, considering Taylor's and KG's statements were so contradictory. You had to expect some public relations damage control.
     
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    They are gonna screw KG. LOL! and the sad part about ut he deserves it. He took it up the bum for 10 years. After 10 years you cant turn to your celly and say enough is enough because if you do your just gonna get raped harder. Poor KG!!

    KG is like the Chicago Cubs.
     

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