Jake Plummer says Doug Stone hit his truck from behind. Doug Stone says that Jake backed into his truck after Stone honked at Plummer for cutting him off. Which story is true? Given the cloud of trouble that has followed Jake Plummer throughout his career, I have to wonder about Jake. (In addition to the bird that he shot Bronco fans, Jake did plead no contest to four counts of sexual assault in 97 and he cussed out a radio personality for telling the public that he was dating a Bronco cheerleader last year.) When you add the fact that it was a witness that copied down Jake's license-plate number, that gives Stone's story more crediblity in my view. Is Jake a punk or just misunderstood? http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/loca...4722609,00.html
Well it's not fair to blame Jake because we know about what he has done in the past. Who knows what kinda guy Mr. Stone is.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>Well it's not fair to blame Jake because we know about what he has done in the past. Who knows what kinda guy Mr. Stone is.</div> I'm not so sure. Flipping off Bronco fans and cussing out a female journalist tells me that Jake may have a bit of trouble controlling his temper. Pleading no contest to sexual assault tells me that he character is questionable. There's an old saying, "where there's smoke, there's fire." I would find it hard to believe that these incidents are just sort of happening to Jake. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in court.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>Well it's not fair to blame Jake because we know about what he has done in the past. Who knows what kinda guy Mr. Stone is.</div> I'm not so sure. Flipping off Bronco fans and cussing out a female journalist tells me that Jake may have a bit of trouble controlling his temper. Pleading no contest to sexual assault tells me that he character is questionable. There's an old saying, "where there's smoke, there's fire." I would find it hard to believe that these incidents are just sort of happening to Jake. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in court.</div> I'm not defending Jake. It very well could be his fault but What if this Doug Stone guy has a bad track record himself as well.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>Well it's not fair to blame Jake because we know about what he has done in the past. Who knows what kinda guy Mr. Stone is.</div> I'm not so sure. Flipping off Bronco fans and cussing out a female journalist tells me that Jake may have a bit of trouble controlling his temper. Pleading no contest to sexual assault tells me that he character is questionable. There's an old saying, "where there's smoke, there's fire." I would find it hard to believe that these incidents are just sort of happening to Jake. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in court.</div> I'm not defending Jake. It very well could be his fault but What if this Doug Stone guy has a bad track record himself as well.</div> I wouldn't know. I don't keep up with track. Track is for wide recievers that can't catch.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>Flipping off Bronco fans and cussing out a female journalist tells me that Jake may have a bit of trouble controlling his temper.</div> Is it worse because its a female journalist? Just curious. I would agree that there is reason to distrust Jake in this case. At the same time, though, at any given moment he could be accused of doing something wrong and people will believe it because of his past. IMO, that is the real danger of building a past like his - people no longer trust you, then when someone accuses you of doing something wrong it will be assumed that it is your fault. Regardless of whether or not he is at fault, his past is punishing him, which it should.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>Well it's not fair to blame Jake because we know about what he has done in the past. Who knows what kinda guy Mr. Stone is.</div> I'm not so sure. Flipping off Bronco fans and cussing out a female journalist tells me that Jake may have a bit of trouble controlling his temper. Pleading no contest to sexual assault tells me that he character is questionable. There's an old saying, "where there's smoke, there's fire." I would find it hard to believe that these incidents are just sort of happening to Jake. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in court.</div> Plummer had short hair and no beard. Mr Stone claimed he did not recognize Jake. Plummer has had a history as Dale pointed out. It'll be interesting to see how this turns out. I wonder; how much of Jake's alleged rage was due to the fact his days in Denver are numbered IMO?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vikingfan)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>Flipping off Bronco fans and cussing out a female journalist tells me that Jake may have a bit of trouble controlling his temper.</div> Is it worse because its a female journalist? Just curious. I would agree that there is reason to distrust Jake in this case. At the same time, though, at any given moment he could be accused of doing something wrong and people will believe it because of his past. IMO, that is the real danger of building a past like his - people no longer trust you, then when someone accuses you of doing something wrong it will be assumed that it is your fault. Regardless of whether or not he is at fault, his past is punishing him, which it should.</div> That's what I'm saying as well. People are pointing fingers at Jake when they weren't there. There doing it base off of his past problems. We have no clue who this other guys is. Maybe he's as bad or just as worse. That'd really change things fast then.
Yeah, i dont doubt it, but am skeptical because this guy probably recognized him and made it up to $$$ Cash in
First, VF, is cussing out a female journalist worse than cussing out a male? In my opinion, it is. I guess I'm just old fashioned, but I would take a lot more off of a woman, verbal or physical, than I would a man. There are limits for both however. In addition, she simply told the public that he was dating a Bronco cheerleader. There's a lot more damaging areas of information that she could meddle in than that. He shouldn't have cussed her. He could have issued a public statement that could have scolded her and made her appear immature without crossing a line of politeness and civility. That would have cast him in a much better light. Porky, I'm not saying that Plummer should be found guilty right now. He deserves his day in court. However, this is in the news and this forum is for expressing opinions, so I expressed mine and am curious to see what others think. As facts come out, my opinion might change, but right now, based on the information presented and Plummer's history, I tend to believe that Jake lost his temper. The key for me is the witness. The fact that someone else saw this and got Jake's plate number for the victim speaks pretty loudly to me. I'll be curious to hear what the witness has to say.
Here's a newer article. After reading it, I more inclined than ever to believe that Jake did it. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The witness, Marjorie Casse, told CBS 4 News that she was on her way to work when she saw the incident unfold and felt compelled to stop. She backed Stone's version of events and said she was "shocked, appalled, scared" by what she saw. Casse said she wrote down the license plate number as the Honda drove away, but never guessed that the Broncos quarterback was behind the wheel. Casse, a nurse, told News 4, "I just moved here a year ago, and I really didn't know who he was."</div> http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/loca...4725670,00.html
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>First, VF, is cussing out a female journalist worse than cussing out a male? In my opinion, it is.</div> I agree - I was just checking.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, i dont doubt it, but am skeptical because this guy probably recognized him and made it up to $$$ Cash in</div> As I stated previously, <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Plummer had short hair and no beard. Mr Stone claimed he did not recognize Jake.</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, i dont doubt it, but am skeptical because this guy probably recognized him and made it up to $$$ Cash in</div> As I stated previously, <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Plummer had short hair and no beard. Mr Stone claimed he did not recognize Jake.</div> </div> I know if i was going to pull that scam, i also would claim i didnt recognize him
Back to the reporter he yelled at...what exactly did she do wrong? The scenario: NFL player knowingly breaks the rules of the league(and yes, it is in the rules, players cant date cheerleaders), player takes step to hide his infraction, reported doing job discovers it, reporter reports it....isnt that the point of a reporter? to find and report the news? isnt an NFL player engaged in a conspiracy to circumvent the league rules a story? damn right it is....Jake should be pissed at himself, and he likely was, but took it out on her....pretty weak!
Every time a new news story comes out about this incident, I come away feeling that Jake Plummer is guilty and he's lucky this guy seems to be so nice about the whole thing. If Jake is guilty, he really should step up and tell the truth and thank this man for not trying rake him over the coals. http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/DEN/9642814
