i didnt see the starting line ups introduced last game, was jalen still getting the start at point? if so, i hope this ends soon...jalen is quickly turning his stint as a raptor into a disgrace with arguably the worst season of his career. hes a turn-over machine and instead of letting the game come to him, he just jacks up a 3-ball with 20 seconds left on the clock because it seems he feels hes dished the ball the past few trips up the court, so now it must be his turn to score. hes not a TRUE point guard...his court vision and passing ability are no doubt high calibre, but he needs to be put at the 2-spot to get back into the scoring mentality and get into those mis-match situations that made him a 17-20 ppg player. his passing mentality is adding to just too many costly turnovers id like to see alvin back at the point, and jalen at the 2, vince, donyell and cb4 in the front court. anyways, that my two cents, whats everyone else think bout this?
^ looks like he listened to you!..haha he got his debut this game(last coupla minute sin the first qwuarter or early second quarter- correct?). He seemed very effective he hit two outside jumpers. HE madew good use of his time.
yeah i was really impressed with him. I think that he can be a major contributor for us if O'Neil can give him consistent minutes per game off the bench.
I don't really agree. I know that Jalen does make some pretty bad decisions at times, but he is better suited at the point than Alvin. I see Alvin as more of a shoot first guard and Jaeln is a better passer. Our record is not bad and thats due to the additions to our team but also the inconsistency displayed. Some games we play defence and have a good system for the offence with passing the ball around. Other games the offence is based on one on one play rather than team play which hurts us the most. I think Alvin will have the most success at the 2 rather than playing point. Jalen just needs play consistently at point and stop taking bad shots which he is starting to do now....but the record shows that we are a good team, they just need to find an identity as to how they are gonna play and stick with it
I think that Roger Mason Jr. should start instead of rose, if rose keeps this up. I think rose has the worst shot selection ability from any of the raptors, but on the other hand Roger Mason Jr shot 100% in his debut for the raptors and made good use of his minutes i think he deserves more minutes.
You see this guy play for a couple minutes and say he should have the starting job?? I don't think so. Do you forget that the Raptors have a winning record with Jalen at the point? As much as everyone thinks how bad he is, he does help us win games as well.
Jalen Rose played some point guard in college at Michigan, and he also played it in Denver. I would leave him at the point because hes taller than most point guards, which just increases his court vision. The Raptors have a wining record right now and I certainly wouldn't blame Jalen for the loses they've suffered. I think you should look at it at a team's point of view, rather than just his... The start of the season was a disaster for Alvin Williams, and all Raptors fans know that. Ever since Jalen arrived Alvin has seemed happy and has been playing a lot better than he was at the start of the season. As for points, Jalen in the last 5 games is averaging 14.6 ppg, and if it wasn't for the 2 point effort against New Orleans, that number would change to 18.3ppg. Hes averaging 14.0ppg this season on a team that isn't even his (its Vince's), Jalen's career ppg is 14.4 so you can't say hes been a huge scorer his whole career, it was only his last season's in Indiana, and his 3 seasons with the Bulls where he averaged 18+ppg, and arguably those teams were his, so he was destined to lead them in scoring. When you consider that there are many scorers on the Raptors, I wouldn't consider moving him to SG for more points. And I think his time at PG hasn't been all that bad.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting v_carter15:</div><div class="quote_post">If O'Neill doesn't give Mason Jr. at least 12 min. for tomorrow's game, i'll be really pissed.</div> Your acting like Mason is a GREAT player. Well for your information hes not that good of a player, he just had 2 shots that he hit. The reason he doesn't get played in the first place is because he doesn't deserve it. You'll be pissed? what if his choice is best for the team, you seem to judge him on only 2 shots in 5 minutes.
haha franchise you don't seem to understand my post, but that's ok. I don't want Mason to play because i think he's good (he only played for one game remember?) I want O'Neill to play him so i can see what he can bring to the team & so he can possibly develop into a strong role player for us this season. It seems that you're the one who's judging things by first impressions...
I don't see any reason why Rose should not start as the point guard. Alvin Williams has played well since moving to shooting guard and Rose has had more assists than any other raptor on a nightly basis.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting thefranchise3:</div><div class="quote_post">Your acting like Mason is a GREAT player. Well for your information hes not that good of a player, he just had 2 shots that he hit. The reason he doesn't get played in the first place is because he doesn't deserve it. You'll be pissed? what if his choice is best for the team, you seem to judge him on only 2 shots in 5 minutes.</div>Well Mason is better than Palacio. And now that Palacio is out he should get his minutes.
What do Palacio have to do with Mason? Mason Jr is a shooting guard, not a point like Palacio is. Palacio wasn't playing much anyways.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting thefranchise3:</div><div class="quote_post">Jalen Rose played some point guard in college at Michigan, and he also played it in Denver. I would leave him at the point because hes taller than most point guards, which just increases his court vision. The Raptors have a wining record right now and I certainly wouldn't blame Jalen for the loses they've suffered. I think you should look at it at a team's point of view, rather than just his... The start of the season was a disaster for Alvin Williams, and all Raptors fans know that. Ever since Jalen arrived Alvin has seemed happy and has been playing a lot better than he was at the start of the season. As for points, Jalen in the last 5 games is averaging 14.6 ppg, and if it wasn't for the 2 point effort against New Orleans, that number would change to 18.3ppg. Hes averaging 14.0ppg this season on a team that isn't even his (its Vince's), Jalen's career ppg is 14.4 so you can't say hes been a huge scorer his whole career, it was only his last season's in Indiana, and his 3 seasons with the Bulls where he averaged 18+ppg, and arguably those teams were his, so he was destined to lead them in scoring. When you consider that there are many scorers on the Raptors, I wouldn't consider moving him to SG for more points. And I think his time at PG hasn't been all that bad.</div> lol, you make great points, but more scoring isnt why i want him at the 2 guard, its because he is turning the ball over too much, and trying to take on a roll that i think is better suited for alvin im well aware of his days as a pg in michigan, but hes still not a natural point guard...alvin always has a great assist to turnover ratio, i think the descision making should be left to alvin, and jalen should stick to what he does best.
Alvin has a good assist to turnover ratio but that doesn't mean that he is a better suited point guard. I would rather have Jalen at the point because he looks to pass more than Alvin did. I think everyone can agree that Alvin is a shoot first point guard and on a team of scorers that is not what is needed. Jalen does look for his teammates a lot more than Alvin does and he also runs the fast break a lot better as well. The Raptors have a lot worse problems than having Jalen running the point(if that is even a problem). The Raptors have a winning record since the trade so why mess with a good thing? Its not like we have played ourselves out of a playoff spot.
