<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Among the latest rumors to come out of Toronto is a Jalen Rose-for- Eddie Jones trade, with the idea that Rose might be a better fit at small forward, the position Jones is playing now that Damon Jones is in the starting lineup.</div> Source: BenMaller.com
Before I opened this thread, I knew it had to be something to do with Eddie Jones. I personally don't like Eddie that much, and I think he's washed up. However, at times it's better having a washed up Eddie than an Inconsistant Jalen who doesn't play D and jacks up shots right after when his defender kills him. This could be a good deal for both sides, but I don't think Miami is foolish enough to exchange Eddies Jones contract for Roses. Plus, I don't really like this, because sadly Rose is our best post player, and Eddie Jones gives us <u>another</u> perimeter player/shooter. For Miami, the key is getting Wade at the 2 where he'll blossom as a player.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Rose = No defense, and loves to shoot, not a good fit in Miami.</div> True but he shoot alot in Miami with Shaq inside getting doubled and triple teamed. The problem with Rose is if he lands in Miami, is that if his defender just beats him on defense and scores, he'll get the ball and just jack it up early in the clock out of frustration. I don't think he'll be a good fit there, but for Miami, he's a better option right now than E.J. Plus this allows Wade to move to the 2 more importantly. I'm not saying that JR is gonna be better there, but it's just a better situation for Miami. Gives us Dorell Wright and then I might like the deal
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post"> Gives us Dorell Wright and then I might like the deal </div> i was thinking along the lines of damon jones and we could swap roger mason or milt.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">True but he shoot alot in Miami with Shaq inside getting doubled and triple teamed. The problem with Rose is if he lands in Miami, is that if his defender just beats him on defense and scores, he'll get the ball and just jack it up early in the clock out of frustration. I don't think he'll be a good fit there, but for Miami, he's a better option right now than E.J. Plus this allows Wade to move to the 2 more importantly. I'm not saying that JR is gonna be better there, but it's just a better situation for Miami. Gives us Dorell Wright and then I might like the deal </div> Wade is already playing the 2, Damon Jones is starting right now.... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">i was thinking along the lines of damon jones and we could swap roger mason or milt.</div> You're crazy if you think they'll trade Damon Jones, what's his 3PT%, 46%, he's the most consistent outside shooter on the team.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post"> You're crazy if you think they'll trade Damon Jones, what's his 3PT%, 46%, he's the most consistent outside shooter on the team.</div> i like damon jones and so does miami. my point is that i wouldn't do the trade from a raptor perspective cause eddie jones and rose have similiar contracts but e.jones is a dramatic dropoff from a talent perspective to rose. i think from a raptor perspective we need a huge incentive to do the deal, d.jones would be that man.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Wade is already playing the 2, Damon Jones is starting right now....</div> Oh I didn't notice...I thought it was still Wade-EJ-Butler
i'd do rose for jones and their first rounder next year. Rose just doesnt fit with our team and our system. But he could be great in Miami with the open looks he'd get. Jones would give us a decent defender, and maybe it would spark him to play the way he's capable of playing. And besides, at least he's cheaper per year. I dont know.....i do think Rose is a considerably better player...i'm just really frustrated with the team and the individual players. (bosh, carter, rose) Another thing, insidehoops and hoopshype are both mentioning Nazr potentially getting added to the pot for carter to NYK. But my question is, although we could use Nazr, who else would we get to match salaries?? Babcock SHOULD want no part of penny, TT or Houston, and I doubt Isiah would trade both K. Thomas and Nazr since that would be his big men right there. So how the hell do they expect this trade to fly???
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">For Miami, the key is getting Wade at the 2 where he'll blossom as a player.</div> I dont understand.Hasnt wade played near all of the season so far at the 1 and totally flourished, receiving player of the month while averaging amoungst the top in scoring and assists per game?Wade is having one of the best sophmore seasons ever.I dont see how wade changing positions would help significantly if at all and i dont see why miami would consider this when making any kind of trade or acquisition.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GiantMidget:</div><div class="quote_post">I dont understand.Hasnt wade played near all of the season so far at the 1 and totally flourished, receiving player of the month while averaging amoungst the top in scoring and assists per game?Wade is having one of the best sophmore seasons ever.I dont see how wade changing positions would help significantly if at all and i dont see why miami would consider this when making any kind of trade or acquisition.</div> The thing about having Wade at the 2 is that he can run the floor more with either Damon Jones or Keyon Dooling at PG rather than having to set up the next play as a PG. Either way it's not gonna effect his performance but it will make the Heat better and get us more transition points.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GiantMidget:</div><div class="quote_post">I dont understand.Hasnt wade played near all of the season so far at the 1 and totally flourished, receiving player of the month while averaging amoungst the top in scoring and assists per game?Wade is having one of the best sophmore seasons ever.I dont see how wade changing positions would help significantly if at all and i dont see why miami would consider this when making any kind of trade or acquisition.</div> He starts at the 1, but the Heat basically play a 2 guard rotation most of the game anyways. Wade is the playmaker, but Damon Jones brings the ball up the floor, DJ isn't a guy that can create shots too well, or drive and dish, but he can bring the ball up the floor and protect it.
Damon Jones can drive to the basket he just doesn't do it often. And he can create shots too nothing spectacular like putting it between your legs / crossing over and spinning the ball like the players you enjoy watching but he can get his own shot off the dribble.
I dont like this trade much, Eddie is 2 years older if I'm not mistaken and we have better offers according to the rumors. I'd rather take the New Orleans deal than this one because we get a dominant inside force and get rid of Vince and Jalen at the same time. The only way, I wouldnt object to this deal is if we got Keyon Dooling and a draft pick along with EJ, or something along those lines.
i believe jalen could halp the heat out a bit. and this also could possibly be a turning point in his career. playing along shaq should get jalen some easier shots that he had in toronto.
