<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Beyond the max-out $103 million contract, beyond the endorsements and his wife's television career across the Hudson River, beyond his status as savior of a lost franchise, there is something stronger clutching Jason Kidd to the New Jersey Nets: How would he ever tell those two kids, Kenyon Martin and Richard Jefferson, that he's leaving them? How? The absolute anguish of looking his starry young forwards in the eyes, telling them that he's leaving for free agency, makes it easier for Kidd to come closer to making a complete commitment to this franchise. What I would do is take a vacation far, far away and call Kenyon and Richard -- maybe just leave them an e-mail," Kidd said. "That would be the absolute toughest part of leaving, telling those two ..." "That would be the toughest part, but fortunately, I don't think that's ever going to happen." It isn't going to happen because Kidd has been slowly seduced by the blossoming talents of Martin and Jefferson. Together, they're draining the drama out of the July 1 free agency deadline, redirecting it into June where these Nets wonder if they can win a championship sooner rather than later with Kidd running the point. Along the way in these Eastern Conference playoffs, Martin has transcended into a true NBA star, a marauding, menacing defender finally developing a star's scoring touch. Jefferson isn't far behind. Kidd has invested deeply in the these two players, the time he takes to coach and coax and push and prod hurtling them toward stardom. "You've got to have a set of ears and these guys listen," Kidd said. "You can tell when they're listening, too. If guys will listen and respect you, it will be a benefit. R.J. and K-Mart have done that." As the Nets clutch a controlling 3-0 lead on the Pistons in the Eastern Conference finals, there is forever to be a voice in the ears of these players with Games 3 and 4 at Continental Airlines Arena, forever Kidd pushing Martin and Jefferson harder and harder. The way they work, the way they're so downright desperate to be great players, Kidd has found them to be the most eager of pupils. "Their progression is probably two years ahead of time, because of what Jason's done for them," Nets coach Byron Scott said. The way Kidd has nurtured these two forwards reflects his own growth as a leader, his own development through the years. He was a lost kid in Dallas and a reluctant leader with the Suns, but his two seasons in Jersey have been the manifestation of his maturity. "Jason wasn't always like this," Jefferson said. "He was a person who just wanted his actions to show his work ethic. But when he came here, he had young players like Kenyon and me and Jason (Collins). He had to talk to us. He had to teach us. And I think that made him a better player." Scott sees so much of his old running mate, Magic Johnson, in the way Kidd immerses himself with Martin and Jefferson. Scott can close his eyes and still hear the volume rising in Magic's voice, shouting to Scott about some defender. "B, he can't guard you. The next five plays, I'm calling just for you. Bust his ass." From Magic's mouth to Scott's memory, his leadership still lives within the Nets coach. Someday, these Nets will understand, too. They'll remember Kidd, the way Scott does Magic. And yet always, Magic's best work with Scott and his Lakers teammates was far from the floor, far from his rah-rah public persona. It was sitting over dinner, talking in the back of the bus on the way, the corners of the locker room. Leadership can be a strange thing in sports: When it isn't there, you can always tell. Yet when it's real and genuine, its resonance can be found in the biggest and smallest of ways. Superstar players are so consumed with endorsements, appearances and posses these days, they lose sight of its relationship between winning and losing. "What Jason understands is that you have to take the time to lead," Scott said. "A lot of players in this league call themselves leaders, but they don't take the time to lead. It takes time, and a lot of guys aren't willing to donate that much to their teammates. The guys on this team would jump off of a bridge with Jason, if he asked them to. And they wouldn't even ask why." Back in November, Kidd invited a struggling Jefferson to his Northern Jersey home for a family dinner. The Nets had traded Keith Van Horn to make the 21-year-old a starter, and truth be told, the Nets sophomore was trying too hard. Around the organization, they feared Jefferson had internalized the need to play well this year so Kidd wouldn't leave as a free agent his summer. Jefferson doesn't just look up to Kidd. "The fact is, Richard idolizes J-Kidd," Scott said. "He thinks he's the greatest. He doesn't want to disappoint him." Over dinner, Jefferson said, "(Kidd) told me to relax, that they needed me this year. He just told me to stop putting so much pressure on yourself. It was so nice -- just me and his family. I responded with my career high to that point the next game. "The thing about J-Kidd, he lets you know the way things are, but also, the way things are going to be." And the way they're going to be, it seems, is Kidd re-signing with the Nets this summer for six seasons, staying to nurture his investments. Kidd could go to San Antonio, but those would always be Tim Duncan's Spurs. These Nets, they belong to Kidd. They're his creation, his reflection, his franchise. In his mind, Kidd doesn't need to go chasing that second star, because Martin has relentlessly rushed into the role, refusing to wait until Kidd was a long, lost teammate to make it happen. Byron Scott was right: These two young forwards are two years beyond where they should be, but they had no choice. They had no time to waste. They had two years to sell Kidd. When Kidd considers the prospect of telling them that he's leaving the Nets, he shakes his head and breathes out. It would be the toughest part of leaving, the hardest goodbye of all. "... I don't think it's ever going to happen," Kidd said. The best reasons to stay just grow and grow. More and more, the truth comes clearer: Jason Kidd staying a Net. After all this, how could he ever tell Martin and Jefferson he's leaving? How?</div> he will stay for sure now...and leaving a rising star like martin and jefferson would be a mistake...
nope...fuck that....truth is, jefferson and kmart arent close to stars. kidd makes them look a lot better than they are and its not that harde in the weak east. good attitueds and feelings come from winning and teh nets are about get a huge slap in the face losing the finals in a blowout o=to the spurs or mavs. thatl change those fuzzy feelings real fast and kidd will split to win a championship with some real stars around him who wont crumble at teh frist sign of trouble. enjoy it net fans (are there any real ones or just on the internet? ) the nets will be a last place team once again when kidd leaves.
LOL....jefferson and martin are clearly rising stars..martin has been one in this playoffs...he has played like a top 10 PF..he destroyed us... and that article shows that he will stay...
SWEEP!! Thanks to Kidd, Richard and Martin. You cant say there not stars if they can sweep any team...just about.
I don't feel like reading all that.. I'm tired of hearing about Kidd staying or leaving. I don't really care anymore. He's probably better off staying, or going to the Spurs.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "SCBrian":</div><div class="quote_post">you say k-mart isnt a rising star olskool but he made ur boy TOINE look like a little school girl!</div> LOL since when is toine walker my "boy". i dont really give a funk. youre the one with kobe coming out of every oraphace. kmart doesnt deserve to mention on the same plane as walker untill he get a few all star years unders his belt like walker has. kenyon has none and probably wont. walker has three and counting and probably should have had one more but like i said i dont really care
well hell Kenyon woulda been on the East but somehow VC was thrown in the mix when he didn't do squat...Olskool that's a false statement there....and plus no matter what the positive about Kidd is...here comes olskool to bring his hopes down....what's up wit dat? Kidd will stay with NJ...shut up...HE'S NOT COMIN TO BOSTON SO QUIT GETTIN UR HOPES UP....
i NEVER said hes coming to boston!!! so shut the HELL up!!! KMart did NOT deserve to go to the all star game this year nor will ever.
LOL LOL LOL....well u bein a boston fan and u always poppin up with ur doubts...I'd say u did want him in Boston....every topic that involved Kidd stayin u r there to defend him not goin...what else should one assume?
yea, i'm tired of people saying that Kmart is all star material. That's crap. Yanno who else is that gets overlooked? Pau Gasol, Jalen Rose, Rip Hamilton, and Amare Stoudemire. Then, next season, a whole bunch of guys are going to have improved over the summer and will be All-Star material.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "SCBrian":</div><div class="quote_post">you say k-mart isnt a rising star olskool but he made ur boy TOINE look like a little school girl!</div> Kind of like what Bruce Bowen did to Kobe, but at least Toine didn't cry
hardly,as martin dominated walker on offence and defence...bruce only did it on defence against kobe.... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yanno who else is that gets overlooked? Pau Gasol, Jalen Rose, Rip Hamilton, and Amare Stoudemire</div> Trust me..amare will be an allstar next year at least if he keeps improving...the guy is a future superstar in this league..averaging 13 points and 9 rebounds a game in his rookie season shows how good he will be.So his turn will come.
i hope so. he deserves it. anyone averaging a double double should be an all star (well.. iono about troy murphy and brian grant)
I expect amare to average at 22 and 11.....and if suns build on the team they have...they might go far in the playoffs next year.They certainly will be higher than 8th seed...they played spurs as well as anyone in this years playoffs...so i think they can go far.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "slamduncan21":</div><div class="quote_post">I don't feel like reading all that.. I'm tired of hearing about Kidd staying or leaving. I don't really care anymore. He's probably better off staying, or going to the Spurs.</div>
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "pchotsauce":</div><div class="quote_post">LOL LOL LOL....well u bein a boston fan and u always poppin up with ur doubts...I'd say u did want him in Boston....every topic that involved Kidd stayin u r there to defend him not goin...what else should one assume?</div> and ur always poppiun up wit youre doubts about shkit. of COURSE i wouldnt mind kidd coming to boston. i bet youd really hate him going to dallas too right?? Ill im doing is telling you whats most likley to happen based on everything thats happened up to this point. it has nothing to do with liking the celtics or the nets or anything. the facts are that jason kidd is going to want to win a championship. he cant win one in new jersey. he will sign on another team. most teams in the league have a better chance of winning a title than the nets when u dont put kidd into the equation. kidd is on the nets and theyre making to the finals. if kidd went to almost any other team theyd likely win a game or two in the finals, maybe even four games in the finals and a nice trophy to go with it.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Kind of like what Bruce Bowen did to Kobe, but at least Toine didn't cry</div> :roll: Oh shut it. Kobe was crying because they lost, not because he didn't play to his ability.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yanno who else is that gets overlooked? Pau Gasol, Jalen Rose, Rip Hamilton, and Amare Stoudemire. Then, next season, a whole bunch of guys are going to have improved over the summer and will be All-Star material.</div> Pau plays in the West. Amare plays in the West, and is a rookie. KMart doesn't play the same position as Jalen Rose or Rip Hamilton.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "STCBBall3":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Kind of like what Bruce Bowen did to Kobe, but at least Toine didn't cry</div> :roll: Oh shut it. Kobe was crying because they lost, not because he didn't play to his ability.</div> yes. they were crying because they lost. pitiful
