Jin disses Rosie O'Donnel

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  1. B.e.

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    www.myspace.com/therealjin(first song)

    Apparently she said some racist things about Asians on The View. I understand maybe commenting about it, but:
    [​IMG].

    To top it off, he used the ETHER beat; to make a low quality diss like this. SMH.
     
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    lol Jin tried to Ether Rosie O' Donnell. What a joke.
     
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    Lol, I'm so out of rap (or hip hop), I've never heard of Ether.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Omarion Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Lol, I'm so out of rap (or hip hop), I've never heard of Ether.</div>

    And I've never heard of Jin... [​IMG]

    But whatever the case is, Rosie O'Donnel's comments weren't in the slightest bit racist.

    Is this guy a serious artist? I love how little talent it takes to get into the 'rap game' these days.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">

    But whatever the case is, Rosie O'Donnel's comments weren't in the slightest bit racist.</div>
    I hope you're kidding.

    I think the track was more of a joke than anything on his part. Didn't really seem like he tried on it. Still funny nonetheless.
     
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    Hahahahaha, I dont like Jin, but this was great. Anything dissing Rosie O'Donnel is great in my mind. Love how he sampled Trump in there too.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I hope you're kidding.

    I think the track was more of a joke than anything on his part. Didn't really seem like he tried on it. Still funny nonetheless.</div>

    From what I heard, they weren't racist.

    She was jokingly imitating the Chineese language by saying "ching chong ching chang," etc. That's her joking about a nation's language, not in any way disrespecting a race. In fact, to assume that a Chineese person could not be, say, Caucasian, is more racist than O'Donnel's comments themselves.

    People just like to get sympathy and exploit their minority status for their own advantage too often.

    Rosie O'Donnel is still a fat, annoying <font color=""Black"">cun</font><font color=""Black"">t</font> though.
     
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    I think what she said wasn't intended to be racist, but it was. Is Rosie O'Donnel a racist? No (well not that I know of), but her comments will definatley offend Asian people.
     
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    OT somewhat but anybody remember Jin on 106:

    "Check your Timbs, they probably say Made in China"

    Oh, man I'll never forget that moment.
     
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    She was joking about how Oriental languages sound funny by generalizing it into "ching chong ching chang." That's racist/racially insensitive/tasteless (whatever you want to call it). She probably isn't racist, but the bottom line is she probably deserved more of a reaction.
     
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    I still don't get how it's racist. That's presuming that only Oriental's speak Chineese, and even if you want to jump to that conclusion, how is doing an impression of a language you don't speak by mimicing its phonemes racist?

    So everytime I mimic a French or Englishman, I'm racist?

    But okay, keep browsing over my posts.
     
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    There is a double standard for every other race that isn't white. Every thing a white person does is considered racist. If whites make fun of asians, blacks, arabs, hispanics, any other race, it's racists. Yet, if black people make fun of whites, it's ok. If Asian's make fun of whites, it's ok.

    You people are completely overreacting, I hate Rosie O'Donnell, but what she did was no where near racist. It was a joke. Get over it. If you people are upset over this, you should be upset over your lives.

    EDIT: For the record, I'm half Arab, half Latin.
     
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    I do get offended if someone comes up to me and says "yo doggg lets go play some b ball homieee!", but it's different when somebody is on TV joking about it because its their job to be funny.
     
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    No I read your post, but I still don't agree. Just because you can find an uncommon, but probably likely, circumstance doesn't mean the presence of race can be dismissed. Now you are right in believing that she was mocking a language not a race, but (1) the fact is that the countries are inhabited by and the language is spoken by an overwhelming majority of East Asians and (2) her joke was built on a commonly known stereotype that always mocks Orientals.

    Anyways, I don't like getting into the details of what is racist and what isn't. It makes people too sensitive. However, there's the other extreme where people will downplay the presence of race or an insult whenever possible. Bottom line is that O'Donnel probably wasn't impersonating a Caucasian East Asian with that tired old joke. People have a right to respond to her and question her motivation.


    EDIT: Mamba, I hear your complaint a lot and really doesn't make sense in this situation. A black person doing that joke probably would've elicited a similar reaction. People don't like to hear jokes that target their race by people who aren't of their race. That's not a double standard, because it applies to white people too.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">No I read your post, but I still don't agree. Just because you can find an uncommon, but probably likely, circumstance doesn't mean the presence of race can be dismissed. Now you are right in believing that she was mocking a language not a race, but (1) the fact is that the countries are inhabited by and the language is spoken by an overwhelming majority of East Asians and (2) her joke was built on a commonly known stereotype that always mocks Orientals.

    Anyways, I don't like getting into the details of what is racist and what isn't. It makes people too sensitive. However, there's the other extreme where people will downplay the presence of race or an insult whenever possible. Bottom line is that O'Donnel probably wasn't impersonating a Caucasian East Asian with that tired old joke. People have a right to respond to her and question her motivation.</div>

    There's a huge difference between a person's race and their language. Different languages use different phonemes, which are basically, in simplified terms, the smallest contrastive units in the sound system of a language. Making fun of the language's phonemes does not in any way, shape, or form qualify as a racist comment.
     
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    I think we both know that the term racist is no longer used in the strict sense and can also imply attacks on culture. Race and language are both apart of culture. Like I said before, the joke could be interpreted as a joke about anyone who speaks a Oriental and that's can't really be traced to a specific culture or race. But the fact that almost all people who speak the language are of East Asian heritage and the joke itself has almost always targeted Orientals points to a specific group.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I think we both know that the term racist is no longer used in the strict sense and can also imply attacks on culture. Race and language are both apart of culture. Like I said before, the joke could be interpreted as a joke about anyone who speaks a Oriental and that's can't really be traced to a specific culture or race. But the fact that almost all people who speak the language are of East Asian heritage and the joke itself has almost always targeted Orientals points to a specific group.</div>

    That's only the interpretation of the uptight assholes, who like I said in my above post just like to get sympathy and exploit their minority status for their own advantage.

    It's really beside the point though, because what she was saying was that Danny DeVito's appearance on The View was being seen worldwide. Her comments were not in the least bit biting or critical. She simply mocked the Chineese phonemes, which have no racial ties whatsoever.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That's only the interpretation of the uptight assholes, who like I said in my above post just like to get sympathy and exploit their minority status for their own advantage.

    It's really beside the point though, because what she was saying was that Danny DeVito's appearance on The View was being seen worldwide. Her comments were not in the least bit biting or critical. She simply mocked the Chineese phonemes, which have no racial ties whatsoever.</div>
    Remember in Yao's rookie season when Shaq did the same thing and had Chinese people protesting outside the Compaq Center at the Lakers/Rockets game? There were even press conferences before the game from the Chinese community pressing for Shaq's apology.

    I personally thought that what she said was just meant to be funny, but to consider that an entire race could be enraged over this, I don't think she should have said anything like that at all.
     
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    Nah dude, that's the interpretation of people who are realistic about how the world is these days. Race in the strict sense is meaning less and less, with interracial marriages, globalization, etc, etc. You compared this issue to me mocking the language of English, but that makes no sense since English is a global language now (it has no specific home). However, if I mockingly use English in a way that is clearly targeting a certain cultural group, then it can be considered racism. For example, if I speak the English language in a hillbilly-ish way, a person from the Southern USA would probably accuse me of racism/racial insensitivity/stereotyping, etc. I could use your excuse, saying that by presupposing that only white people talk like that he's being racist, but there's a precedent behind the joke and it combines language, race, and location to make fun of a certain culture. There's no word like culture-ism, so racism nowadays implies cultural attacks too.

    I don't know why you have an axe to grind against reverse racism or "minority's exploiting their status for an advantage," but (1) it's not relevant in this situation and (2) what advantage do you see coming from this reaction? If it results in the ability to watch talk shows and not be subjected to pre-school jokes about how Orientals are different, then that's not an advantage, that's equality.
     

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