Joel's contract might help us. The problems with his team are deep and systemic. Adding a center coming off a major injury isn't going to right the ship.
Joel's contract won't get us cartilage and a new coach, either, and since those are the deep, systemic problems with the team... I'm not sure what trading Joel can really get us.
That's where Cho earns his $$$. Get some value out of Joel & Andre and make it clear to the coach/player that if your body isn't right, you don't play.
A chance? I mean that seriously. Trading Joel might land us a pick, or young player. That pick could turn into a diamond in the rough. That young player could turn into a Jermaine O'Neal type? It's a long shot, but you never know. Like the Cubs fans say, "wait til next year" You just never know
I agree completely. Blowing up the roster means trading a certain present and fairly certain future (which doesn't look great) for a chance at something better (or worse) It's probably a longshot but at least it's a chance.
I need something more concrete. I know roughly what I'm going to get from Joel if I play him... this whole "trade Joel for a chance at something" is all fine and dandy, but if it doesn't net us a better backup center than Joel Przybilla, there's not really a point because we're still in deep shit with our center position. LMA played 45 minutes tonight. 45 fucking minutes. He's our backup center. This cannot stand. if trading Joel is step 1 of 12, then okay... yeah, blow it up. But saying "Trade Joel" on its own means little to me.
Picks? What are those??? Oh wait, I think I am remembering something from last season......yes. It is Juwan Howard laying a pick. Yes I remember those now.
Those were the things we got whistled for because point guards never knew when to wait for them to be set.
Joel probably raises this team's floor, but almost certainly does nothing for its ceiling. In my book that adds up to a whole gravy boat full of mediocrity. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'd rather risk a step backward if it meant possibly raising this team's potential.
I agree, and I'm willing to take a step backwards if there's a plan involved. Saying Trade Joel does not a plan make. Even when we traded Sheed for peanuts, there was a (25 point) plan involved and I got behind it, so it doesn't even have to be a good plan
Trading Joel has little downside IMHO. If we keep him then we are looking at a difficult decision in terms of offering him a long term deal after massive injury. Keeping him is a little risky as well since he could lose him for nothing or sign another player that can't stay healthy as of late. The best years for Andre and Joel are behind them. It's time to get younger with either picks or young prospects.
The downside and risk I see to trading Joel: breaking LMA or Camby by playing them ridiculous minutes because we have no backup center. I like both of these players, and since we're kind of stuck with LMA, we'd better not break him too.