John Hollinger

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  1. jarkid

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    He ranks Sean Williams #2 now,
    and he thinks changing the front court might save the Nets season.
    Before these things, he said Don't worry about the Nets' Situation.

    I think he is favoring the Nets now, not like before, He always said bad things to the Nets.

    Why has he just changed his mind to be a good man to the Nets?

    He may be our favorite poster for now.
     
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    Where did he write this?
     
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    jarkid Sean The Answer to Nets Big Men

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    thanks jarkid.
     
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    I don't know if that specifically means he's #2 in Hollinger's eyes, but rather #2 in Rookie PER.
     
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    Yeah thats for rookies. (it says at the top)
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Dec 20 2007, 12:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't know if that specifically means he's #2 in Hollinger's eyes, but rather #2 in Rookie PER.</div>

    What's the difference?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lukewarmplay @ Dec 20 2007, 01:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Dec 20 2007, 12:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't know if that specifically means he's #2 in Hollinger's eyes, but rather #2 in Rookie PER.</div>

    What's the difference?
    </div>

    The Player Efficiency Rating (PER) is a rating of a player's per-minute productivity.

    To generate it, I created formulas -- which I outlined in tortuous detail in the book "Pro Basketball Forecast" -- that return a value for each of a player's accomplishments. That includes positive accomplishments, such as field goals, free throws, 3-pointers, assists, rebounds, blocks and steals, and negative ones, such as missed shots, turnovers and personal fouls.

    Two important things to remember about PER is that it's per-minute and pace-adjusted.

    It's a per-minute measure because that allows us to compare, say, T.J. Ford to Jose Calderon, even though there is a disparity in the minutes they played.

    I also adjust each player's rating for his team's pace, so that players on a slow-paced team like Detroit aren't penalized just because their team's games have fewer possessions than those of a fast-paced team such as Golden State.

    Bear in mind that this rating is not the final, once-and-for-all answer for a player's accomplishments during the season. This is especially true for players -- such as Bruce Bowen and Jason Collins -- who are defensive specialists but don't get many blocks or steals.

    What PER can do, however, is summarize a player's statistical accomplishments in a single number. That allows us to unify the disparate data on each player that we try to track in our heads (e.g., Corey Maggette: free-throw machine, good rebounder, decent shooter, poor passer, etc.) so that we can move on to evaluating what might be missing from the stats.

    I set the league average in PER to 15.00 every season.

    Among players who played at least 500 minutes in 2006-07, the highest rating was Dwyane Wade's 29.04. The lowest was Collins's 3.02.





    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/stor...&id=2850240
     
  9. pegs

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    Um...KC...he was joking.

    He was referring to the fact that, in Hollinger's eyes, PER is the only thing that matters. [​IMG]
     
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    how the f*ck should I know he's joking? I'm sure plenty of people don't know what PER is...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Dec 20 2007, 02:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>how the f*ck should I know he's joking? I'm sure plenty of people don't know what PER is...</div>

    Takes psychic connection out, shakes it, puts it back in. All of a sudden thinking about poop, must be working.
     
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    [​IMG]

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    "On the weekend Kid Chocolate does stunts for Little Richard in gay porn movies."

    Th big negative I see in Sean is his unfamiliarity running the offense and figuring out where he's supposed to be. There's a lot of standing around in one spot, and a lot of times he's accidently bumping into a driving Carter or Jefferson instead of spreading the defense out. There's not really a statistic that measures that, so I can expect his PER to be pretty high. It also certainly helps to get a ridiculously large amount of blocks: these are definitive stops on defense and have given him a +10.75 efficiency rating (although thats another sham statistic that I dislike using; take it for what its worth).
     
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    Chocloate boy is gay? am in shock (sarcasm)


    Anyways, Boone and Sean arent going to save this team
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 20 2007, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Chocloate boy is gay? am in shock (sarcasm)


    Anyways, Boone and Sean arent going to save this team</div>

    Should not hang hopes so high on a rookie and a big man who misses a healthy chunk of games.

    -Petey
     
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    chocolate boy is my gay alter-ego
     
  17. zєяσ

    zєяσ Truth is beautiful

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    Actually, I would like to thank KC for the explanation.





































    Thank you. [​IMG]
     
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    My post was sarcasm, that's not really PER. You should know that.
     
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    Oh mans D:
    Idk what to think anymores
     

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