What if Billy King had pulled the trigger on that trade that was suppose to go down last season((Johnson for Dalembert)trade deadline)? C- Steven Hunter PF- Chris Webber SF- Joe Johnson SG- Andre Iguodala PG- Allen Iverson 6th Man- Kyle Korver I'm not up-to par with how the whole salary thing would have went, but idealistically, that's pretty much how our line-up would look like. What do you guys think? We get a player similar to Dalembert in the paint, followed off with a healthier and happier Webber plus two defense players and none other than the former MVP and like we all wanted, instant offense off the bench from none other than Korver.
Nah I dont like that trade for 76ers. Dalembert is more valuable to the team than Joe Johnson would be.
Steve Hunter starting? Wow, he's nice as a backup, and works in a system like the Suns, but Huter dissapoints a lot.
Would I like to see this trade go down? Definitely. Do I think it's going to happen? No way. Atlanta just paid Johnson all that bonus money up front and unless they get the Sixers to pay some of that off, there is no chance this deal goes down. But it would be interesting to see this roster with JJ on it, I would love to see it happen.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting C.K.:</div><div class="quote_post">Would I like to see this trade go down? Definitely. Do I think it's going to happen? No way. Atlanta just paid Johnson all that bonus money up front and unless they get the Sixers to pay some of that off, there is no chance this deal goes down. But it would be interesting to see this roster with JJ on it, I would love to see it happen.</div> He is speaking of the trade that was rumored last-season; it has nothing to do with right now because both players got new contracts. Also I like are team without Johnson, obviously if he is willing to play with the Hawks he is interested in his own thing and now winning ball games. That is exactly what the 76ers do not need. Also last year Philly wouldn't have known if they were going to be able to sign Steven Hunter to be able to play center, also last year King could have tried to pull the trigger on the trade but PHX backed out for the NY deal. We don't know what went down, and to me it didn't even seem like a valid rumor in the first place. Also if that trade were to happen the 76ers would have no back up center, that seems like a problem to me unless Steven Hunter play 48 minutes a night for 82 games.
this trade wouldnt help any team. after all that the hawks have given up they are not trading joe and sixers allready have a scorer in AI dont need another
I actually think it would put us in a better position to win a championship now. It bennefits both teams- Johnson is ready to contribute and puts up great stats while Dalembert is more in a developing phase and has more potential attached to him. And since we're trying to win a championship in the next two years, Johnson makes more sense. He proves another perimeter threat as well as a quality player that can do basically anything. Plus, we would still have a similar player to Dalembert, although no where near the skill level. Still, I'm sure it wouldn't hurt us that much. The starting lineup looks solid as does the sixth man, but the rest is pretty much in shambles.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AznxBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">I actually think it would put us in a better position to win a championship now. It bennefits both teams- Johnson is ready to contribute and puts up great stats while Dalembert is more in a developing phase and has more potential attached to him. And since we're trying to win a championship in the next two years, Johnson makes more sense. He proves another perimeter threat as well as a quality player that can do basically anything. Plus, we would still have a similar player to Dalembert, although no where near the skill level. Still, I'm sure it wouldn't hurt us that much. The starting lineup looks solid as does the sixth man, but the rest is pretty much in shambles.</div> That doesn't make sense because JJ isn't interested in winning championships. If was he would have stayed in PHX right? Not request a trade to the Hawks. To me that is the wrong attitude to have but JJ is a young guy and obviously he wants to be THE GUY and that would definitely be the wrong attitude to have in Philly playing next to AI so that automatically would NOT work already. Also how does it make us in a better position to win a Championship? Yes it looks good on paper, but having one true center on your team is NOT going to put you in a better position to win a title. The 76ers have all the scorers they need; they don't need a player of JJ's magnitudes. If anything is going to help the 76ers to be in a better position to when a Championship it would be a veteran player who can contribute and play a strong role. Also I'm sure Billy King was busy doing the Webber deal around the trade deadline so I seriously doubt that he would have been able to make two major deals at the deadline. Therefore I doubt this rumor was valid to begin with.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting B-22:</div><div class="quote_post">That doesn't make sense because JJ isn't interested in winning championships. If was he would have stayed in PHX right? Not request a trade to the Hawks. To me that is the wrong attitude to have but JJ is a young guy and obviously he wants to be THE GUY and that would definitely be the wrong attitude to have in Philly playing next to AI so that automatically would NOT work already. Also how does it make us in a better position to win a Championship? Yes it looks good on paper, but having one true center on your team is NOT going to put you in a better position to win a title. The 76ers have all the scorers they need; they don't need a player of JJ's magnitudes. If anything is going to help the 76ers to be in a better position to when a Championship it would be a veteran player who can contribute and play a strong role. Also I'm sure Billy King was busy doing the Webber deal around the trade deadline so I seriously doubt that he would have been able to make two major deals at the deadline. Therefore I doubt this rumor was valid to begin with.</div> thank you for elaborating my point
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting B-22:</div><div class="quote_post">That doesn't make sense because JJ isn't interested in winning championships. If was he would have stayed in PHX right? Not request a trade to the Hawks. To me that is the wrong attitude to have but JJ is a young guy and obviously he wants to be THE GUY and that would definitely be the wrong attitude to have in Philly playing next to AI so that automatically would NOT work already. Also how does it make us in a better position to win a Championship? Yes it looks good on paper, but having one true center on your team is NOT going to put you in a better position to win a title. The 76ers have all the scorers they need; they don't need a player of JJ's magnitudes. If anything is going to help the 76ers to be in a better position to when a Championship it would be a veteran player who can contribute and play a strong role. Also I'm sure Billy King was busy doing the Webber deal around the trade deadline so I seriously doubt that he would have been able to make two major deals at the deadline. Therefore I doubt this rumor was valid to begin with.</div> Yeah, but this thread is a what if thread to begin with. What if this was the roster right now basically. Bottom line is that he would be with us, doesn't matter if he wanted to be traded to Atlanta. With that said, Johnson has a good enough character to not screw up any major team chemistry for us. I mean, he went through all of last season without whining or anything about being the man right? If he comes here, he will obviously give Iverson another scoring option along with Webber- taking some pressure that hounds Iverson. I would assume that King would swing a move for us in getting a backup center. But lets say Hunter's the only center. We always have Randolph and Gai- who know's maybe they can turn out to be surprises when given the minutes? I just think we're expecting too much of Dalembert. We keep thinking its going to be his breakout year- sort of like last year, but who's to say he'll do it this year. Its really hard to guarantee he'll make that much of an impact. He might just stay in foul trouble and wouldn't be that much of help at all.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">With that said, Johnson has a good enough character to not screw up any major team chemistry for us. I mean, he went through all of last season without whining or anything about being the man right? If he comes here, he will obviously give Iverson another scoring option along with Webber- taking some pressure that hounds Iverson. I would assume that King would swing a move for us in getting a backup center. B<u>ut lets say Hunter's the only center. We always have Randolph and Gai- who know's maybe they can turn out to be surprises when given the minutes?</u> I just think we're expecting too much of Dalembert. We keep thinking its going to be his breakout year- sort of like last year, but who's to say he'll do it this year. Its really hard to guarantee he'll make that much of an impact. He might just stay in foul trouble and wouldn't be that much of help at all.</div> Randolph and Gai are NOT centers. The 76ers would be destroyed in the paint defensivly. Dalembert is going to be some help. He was very helpful last season when he averaged 15 and 10 in the playoffs against one of the best frontcourts in the leagues. Once he has a coach that keeps him in the lineup, he will be a lot better. He was better in the 03-04 seasons when he got consistent playing time. O'Brien however flip-flopped him too much and that definitely messed up his focus. Also how easy is it to just go get another center? Yeah, we can just let the undrated rookies play backup center. At this point, like I said the 76ers don't need a scorer. I'd rather just see Iguodala develop then JJ take up more shots.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Also how easy is it to just go get another center? Yeah, we can just let the undrated rookies play backup center.</div> I thought Randolph was one, he's 6-10... I don't watch college ball though so I'm really just shooting in the dark here though. Its actually fairly easy to get a center. There's plenty in the free agent market. In fact, we could have probably gone after Dale Davis a lot harder if we were in this situation. He's a pretty serviceable backup in my opinion.
I thought they were both forwards. Anyways both of them are unlikely to actually make the active roster. Afterall they are undrafted rookies. Would you really feel like they would be reliable backups in this league?
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Would you really feel like they would be reliable backups in this league?</div> Truthfully? No. Randolph maybe in a couple of years and if given the chance but I don't see that happening.
well, if we had gotton johnson, our offense would be great. but we might not do so well on D. IMO, we are a better team with sammy than johnson. also, im interested, i know around the end of the deadline there was also talks about sammy for marion (at least im pretty sure there was talks). if we had pulled the trigger, do you think that we would be a better team this season?
I would like that deal for Marion. He's an inside defender, outside defender and can go for 20 a game. I don't see him moaning about not getting the ball enough either, he has a likable personality and wouldn't cause too much friction as far as team chemistry.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheAnswer2:</div><div class="quote_post">I would like that deal for Marion. He's an inside defender, outside defender and can go for 20 a game. I don't see him moaning about not getting the ball enough either, he has a likable personality and wouldn't cause too much friction as far as team chemistry.</div> yeah, but remember how he basically disappeared in that playoff series against the spurs? it tells me that we cant rely on him in big games.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> yeah, but remember how he basically disappeared in that playoff series against the spurs? it tells me that we cant rely on him in big games.</div> ...He was going up against Tim Duncan and a great Spurs defense. Marion stepped it up with rebounding and some good defense, which probably took a toll on his offensive game.
