Just a quick thinker Mavs Vs. GS

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  1. dirkenator

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    The warriors have played some good ball and swept the reg. season with the Mavs. Not to rub the shine off their record... but if you look at the each game stats ...Game 1 vs GS: Dirk played an awesome game. Could not give them the 4 point push to win. *Howard* was injured in the game and left after 12 min of game play.... I think this was the factor that costed the MavsGame 2 GS had a cookout with Mavs on the menu. All the starters played but ... Dirk was 3-11 Howard was 5-15 Harris was 5-13 Terry was the only one who played decent 5-8Game 3 Mavs played the C TEAM. 3 starters where benched alongside Stackhouse the best bench player the team has. So .... I dunno you guys may not agree with me ... Everyone is talking how the Warriors are gonna can the Mavs but I think otherwise. Overall I think its gonna be a good series.
     
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    It hasn't just been this year...they are like 10-1 vs the Mavs in their last 11 games or something.I personally agree that the Mavs will beat the Warriors, but a very talented and hyped up team like the Warriors can always cause some problems. Especially one that has a lot of matchups in their favor. But the Mavs are too good to lose a 1st round series.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if we swept them
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Point Blank @ Apr 21 2007, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wouldn't be surprised if we swept them</div>I would, I think this series will go to at least 6, but the Mavs will win it.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>It hasn't just been this year...they are like 10-1 vs the Mavs in their last 11 games or something.</div>You know I saw that 1-10 and was like that's ridiculous. And I checked, were 4-7 the past 3 seasons. And beyond those which I won't go into because let's face it, teams were different. But I just wanted to point out it's not 1-10. 4-7 is bad, but not 1-10 bad. Also, if you want to even account for the last game as a loss considering Mavs did not even care and sat Dirk, Howard and Stackhouse.
     
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    Well game 2 was the only game that was fair player wise.So in that case the Warriors still know how to beat them. if they can hold those player to percentages like that, that that shows something. Also I remember GS winning at least 2 games against them last year.
     
  7. Nitro1118

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Apr 21 2007, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You know I saw that 1-10 and was like that's ridiculous. And I checked, were 4-7 the past 3 seasons. And beyond those which I won't go into because let's face it, teams were different. But I just wanted to point out it's not 1-10. 4-7 is bad, but not 1-10 bad. Also, if you want to even account for the last game as a loss considering Mavs did not even care and sat Dirk, Howard and Stackhouse.</div>Oh wow, I am sorry for the mixup. I could have sworn I heard it was something along those lines in the past 10 games or so. Thanks for clearing that up.
     
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    Mavs in 5.The Warriors pose a lot of problems, but the biggest is the matchups when they play small ball. Unless the Mavs dominant the tempo and the paint, Nelly will go small with Harrington at center and that really hurts us.I really don't see the Mavs losing this. I don't care what the record has been over the last 2 seasons, the Mavs are on a mission. :winkglasses:
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Apr 21 2007, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You know I saw that 1-10 and was like that's ridiculous. And I checked, were 4-7 the past 3 seasons. And beyond those which I won't go into because let's face it, teams were different. But I just wanted to point out it's not 1-10. 4-7 is bad, but not 1-10 bad. Also, if you want to even account for the last game as a loss considering Mavs did not even care and sat Dirk, Howard and Stackhouse.</div>3 seasons ago the Warriors were not the same team, the warriors have won 6 out of the last 7 against the mavs. Three years ago the warriors were 1-3 against the mavs but were 3-0 this year and 3-1 last year.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>3 seasons ago the Warriors were not the same team, the warriors have won 6 out of the last 7 against the mavs. Three years ago the warriors were 1-3 against the mavs but were 3-0 this year and 3-1 last year.</div>Look, Nitro posted 1-10. So I took the last 11 games as well and showed it was not 1-10. Simple. I also pointed out the difference of makeup each season, just like last season. Neither has the same team, but I had to correct the last 11 game record originally posted in this thread.
     
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    ^^^Kareem better duck! Bruce Lee is about to kick him in the head.It could be this year's Lakers/Suns. I mean, it could be like the 2006 first rounder between the Lakers and Suns, not this years obviously, the Lakers are getting their asses kicked.
     
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    I think Don Nelson has a kind of play in this. He knows Dallas's system to an extent. I wouldnt be surprised if he was telling his players where Dirk wanted the ball and etc...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Apr 25 2007, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Don Nelson has a kind of play in this. He knows Dallas's system to an extent. I wouldnt be surprised if he was telling his players where Dirk wanted the ball and etc...</div>That's exactly what I think is happening. He knows where dirk wants the ball, and when he is going to get hot and cold.
     
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    Well, Nelson has talked to some people and he does have a set of "Nowitzki" rules. Now he isnt going to go out and say this is a, b, and c. That would be really stupid, but yes, every player in the league has tendancies, hot spots, and moves that they do game in game out. Nowitzki is no different. Now due to the fact that Nelson A), drafted and coached Dirk for a long amount of time, and [​IMG] is a great coach, he should know Nowitzki like the backside of his hand. Here are some things that I've noticed.Dirk loves to get that mid range post on the top of the free throw line. When he gets it, he does a couple of dribbles and loves to use the spin to the right. On that second dribble I'd send someone from that direction to get the steal/double team. Of course he's going to find the open man or split the double team some of the time, but I'd rather have a guy like Devin Harris or Devean George shooting a jumper rather than Dirk. Dirk is vurtually unstoppable from that range when gaurded one on one.Another thing is that he loves doing is trailing the initial fast break and likes to come in and stop at the 3 point line. He doesn't do it as often as he once did under Nelson, but he still does it. Thats why having a small defender like Jackson gaurd him isnt so bad because most bigs run directly into the paint while wings most of the time dont. Just having him in the right position on the court stops that shot. You have to block out Dirk on the offensive side. Dirk is an underated offensive rebounder. Under Avery's reign Dirk has gotten better at it. In Game 1 Dirk had 5 offensive rebounds and about 3 baskets that were put backs. Theres plenty of other things, but there are a few. I'm sure that a lot of you already knew these, but there are some that dont.
     
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    I don't think it's as complex as that, it seems what Nellie's figured out is that Dirk can't score on a double team of quicker/faster guys. That has been figured out in the past by the Rockets a couple years ago but most teams don't have the resources to do this effectively.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I don't think it's as complex as that, it seems what Nellie's figured out is that Dirk can't score on a double team of quicker/faster guys. That has been figured out in the past by the Rockets a couple years ago but most teams don't have the resources to do this effectively.</div>Agree, Spurs have used the same strategy of sending a 2nd guy on the spin in past years. It's nothing new, I don't really see Nellie putting out anything new to stop Dirk.
     

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