If any other team had been in trouble in europe 3 matches running you would of all been saying they should be thrown out of europe so why are United any different? Discuss.
But they just annihilated roma. i dont think itll be great for football in general if a team playing such high quality football is kicked out now
hahahahahahahahahahaha... hahahahahahahahahaha hahahaha.... NO! Lille: Fans were trying to escape a disaster Rome: Credible witness says Roma fans started it
As much as I hate Man Utd, I don't see why they should be kicked out because of their fans. Although I'd like to see it. Maybe they should be forced to play their European games behind closed doors, but that's if things continue or Man Utd fans actually start the fights. I would say the same for any other team before anyone tries to have a dig at me, even if it were Chelsea.
The thing is United fans have been causing trouble 3 games running 1 : Ticketless fans at Lille caused the overcrowding 2 : United fans burst through the segregation lines at Roma to attack celebrating fans 3 : United fans dressed in black attacked Roma fans at OT as they were queueing to get in the ground with numerous United fans arrested. If any other team in europe would of been involved in incidents like this everyone would be saying 'what do they have to do to be kicked out'. Theres no smoke without fire!
<div class="quote_poster">bringiton Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The thing is United fans have been causing trouble 3 games running 1 : Ticketless fans at Lille caused the overcrowding 2 : United fans burst through the segregation lines at Roma to attack celebrating fans 3 : United fans dressed in black attacked Roma fans at OT as they were queueing to get in the ground with numerous United fans arrested. If any other team in europe would of been involved in incidents like this everyone would be saying 'what do they have to do to be kicked out'. Theres no smoke without fire!</div> Hm ... Maybe they should have games played behind closed doors then, punishment being not getting the ticket sales. I haven't read much about all this so I'm just going from what I do know.
Uefa fined United for their part in the trouble at Lille and the other 2 incidents are now being reviewed by them. If you ask me i'd say United are trouble makers its no coincidence that wherever they play there's trouble. So how many chances do they need?
However many they want ... Andy Gray supports em But I know what you mean, maybe it's because the press love them and it'll look bad on UEFA etc etc, you know how it is ... bad image and shit like that, maybe UEFA want to stay away from it, meaning they keep Man Utd in. I know I talk shit a lot of the time ... but you love it
It says something when a Liverpool fan starts to complain about fans turning up without tickets and causing trouble outside the ground. The behaviour of Liverpool fans is anything less than exemplary. Alan Smith's ambulance, perse? Lille: Police over-reaction causing a dangerous crush of fans trying to flee the violence. Roma: Roma fans hurling bottles at United fans, nothing happens to them. United fans throw bottles at Roma fans, Police move in with excessive force. Old Trafford: Roma fans, again, incited the violence by attacking United fans on Sir Matt Busby Way, Manchester Police diffused the situation using correct force. UEFA have even commended the police this morning for the way they handled the whole thing and told forces on the continent to learn. Also, read this: How Ultras ganged up on United | the Daily Mail and then come back and tell me it was United's doing in Rome.
<div class="quote_poster">soilborn Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It says something when a Liverpool fan starts to complain about fans turning up without tickets and causing trouble outside the ground. The behaviour of Liverpool fans is anything less than exemplary. Alan Smith's ambulance, perse? Lille: Police over-reaction causing a dangerous crush of fans trying to flee the violence. Roma: Roma fans hurling bottles at United fans, nothing happens to them. United fans throw bottles at Roma fans, Police move in with excessive force. Old Trafford: Roma fans, again, incited the violence by attacking United fans on Sir Matt Busby Way, Manchester Police diffused the situation using correct force. UEFA have even commended the police this morning for the way they handled the whole thing and told forces on the continent to learn. Also, read this: How Ultras ganged up on United | the Daily Mail and then come back and tell me it was United's doing in Rome.</div> That's the only one i can answer for is the Lille one ... the Man Utd fans shouldn't have piled into the crappy little stadium should they?
<div class="quote_poster">soilborn Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It says something when a Liverpool fan starts to complain about fans turning up without tickets and causing trouble outside the ground. The behaviour of Liverpool fans is anything less than exemplary. Alan Smith's ambulance, perse? Lille: Police over-reaction causing a dangerous crush of fans trying to flee the violence. Roma: Roma fans hurling bottles at United fans, nothing happens to them. United fans throw bottles at Roma fans, Police move in with excessive force. Old Trafford: Roma fans, again, incited the violence by attacking United fans on Sir Matt Busby Way, Manchester Police diffused the situation using correct force. UEFA have even commended the police this morning for the way they handled the whole thing and told forces on the continent to learn. Also, read this: How Ultras ganged up on United | the Daily Mail and then come back and tell me it was United's doing in Rome.</div> I think you'll find the Man United fans started it at OT.
Eye witness accounts all over the media say very different. It's not the United fans being charged with carrying bladed weapons. It's not United fan's rallying other countries hooligans for a fight. This is all on Roma.
Okay then if United fans wasn't at OT looking for trouble what was they doing there some 2 1/2 hours before kick off. And if that about Liverpool fans turning up without tickets is a dig about Hillsborough you really need to find whats left of that tiny little brain of yours because Liverpool fans were completely blameless of that IF you care to listen to the verdict from court which you probably won't because that fits into your own little world. Also i won't read your Daily Mail account of things because as we all know in the English Media poor ickle manny wanny united can't do anyfing wong can they.
I'd rather take accounts from people I actually know were at Hillsborough than a Scouser-skewed verdict. Everyone with half a braincell (excludes the red half of Merseyside, clearly) knows the whole incident was caused by Liverpool fans over-crowding the stand. But this is another thread, for another time. And that Daily Mail article isn't about the actual events in Rome or Manchester, it's about Roma's fans recruiting Polish, Croatian, Dutch, French, Austrian, Bulgarian, Serbian and Slovakian hooligans to ambush Manchester United fans in Rome. As for United fans being at OT 2 hours before kick-off, you do realise that there was 70,000-odd people converging on one area, and people tend to turn up early. I've been to games at Old Trafford and the Old Wembley where we arrived 3-4 hours early to beat the rush of tens of thousands of people turning up at the same time in one relatively small area.
I was actually at Hillsborough gobshite ,so don't try to come the high and mighty know it all. If you actually care to learn the facts about it you will see the reason behind the overcrowding lies at the fault of the police on the day. As for the rubbish about them rercuiting other nationalities to ambush United fans you really are delusional.The Daily Mail is well known for spouting such crappy right wing rubbish. The supporters 2 hours before the game at OT were a known gang of United hooligans who go by the name "men in black" who were specifically there early to cause trouble.
Even the BBC admitted it was United fans starting it when they were reporting live before the game. There were people dressed in black getting beaten and arrested by the police.
r u fricken stupid man, roma italioin fans are dangerous most notable for, killingh a policce opfficer, that's why their league got postponed for 2 weeks, and roma has a history of hooligans, we stopped years or decads ago.
<div class="quote_poster">bringiton Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I was actually at Hillsborough gobshite ,so don't try to come the high and mighty know it all. If you actually care to learn the facts about it you will see the reason behind the overcrowding lies at the fault of the police on the day. As for the rubbish about them rercuiting other nationalities to ambush United fans you really are delusional.The Daily Mail is well known for spouting such crappy right wing rubbish. The supporters 2 hours before the game at OT were a known gang of United hooligans who go by the name "men in black" who were specifically there early to cause trouble.</div> What I heard was that Liverpool fans were completely drunk, they arrived late and forced there way in whilst drunk, causing the crush. Also, these said people were ticketless . After the "event" liverpool fans ran riot by kicking vehicles that tried to pass. Just what I heard.
