<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">SEEN AND HEARD The Kobe Bryant legacy lives on. Not only did the Los Angeles Lakers superstar throw away the ball with about five seconds remaining Monday night, he reportedly went ballistic after the game. According to several television media members at last night's game, Bryant smashed a TV monitor outside the Lakers locker room. Word is that the monitor was property of the Lakers television flagship. Also, there is photographic evidence of Bryant's handiwork. </div> Source If the Lakers land Artest, Evian bottles and TV Monitors better watch out.
That's because for the 6th straight game he got no help from his teammates....when Kobe's supporting cast steps up, Kobe has better games cause he doesn't face as much pressure, when they don't- he is forced to try and do it all
With Kobe throwin' those elbows, and Artest beating up the fans, we'll be the most feared team in the NBA you gotta love it.
Thats passion. He takes the game seriously and cares about the win-loss record, not just his paycheque.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting illmatic:</div><div class="quote_post">With Kobe throwin' those elbows, and Artest beating up the fans, we'll be the most feared team in the NBA you gotta love it.</div> lol The only guy you would be missing is Dennis Rodman.
Anyone read about Kobe saying about the Lakers defending their paint? What Kobe was saying about defending the lane is messed up. Its one thing to play good defense to prevent people penetrating the lane, its another thing to think that occaisional flagrant fouls or unnecessary force should be used to scare people from driving... Thats just unsportsman like.
That's the same thing the rockets do they expect T-mac to do almost everything.. kobe needs more help from his teammates
I wish I could see the look on Kobe's face when he crashed the monitor, lol. Did you know he got a 1420 on the SAT (old one, out of 1600)? Why did he throw the ball away with 5 seconds? I thought the Lakers only lost by one.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SkiptoMyLue11:</div><div class="quote_post">Anyone read about Kobe saying about the Lakers defending their paint? What Kobe was saying about defending the lane is messed up. Its one thing to play good defense to prevent people penetrating the lane, its another thing to think that occaisional flagrant fouls or unnecessary force should be used to scare people from driving... Thats just unsportsman like.</div> I disagree, it's called sending a message and letting people know they are going to pay the physical price of attacking your rim. If you look around the league at the best defensive teams, you'll see a constant. They all have a physical presence in the paint and guys willing to foul a player hard. The NBA is a man's game and knocking someone on their butt should be accepted. He's not talking about injurying a player, he's just saying the Lakers need to stop with the tissue soft play on the inside. You have to be mentally prepared to dish it out and take it. A lot of players take cheap shots at Kobe, but he understands it's part of the game. He got closed lined by Josh Howard in the Dallas game, because Howard wanted to let him know he didn't appreciate Kobe showing up his team. Then on XMas Kobe and Wade exchanged elbows because neither wanted to back down from the other. However, after the game they exchanged hugs and left the physical play on the court.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SkiptoMyLue11:</div><div class="quote_post">Anyone read about Kobe saying about the Lakers defending their paint? What Kobe was saying about defending the lane is messed up. Its one thing to play good defense to prevent people penetrating the lane, its another thing to think that occaisional flagrant fouls or unnecessary force should be used to scare people from driving... Thats just unsportsman like.</div> Did you see what Miller did to Kobe? Your telling me Kobe should take that kind of crap from other players. He had to get stiches!!!!! The guy was gushing blood from his head. I approve Kobes actions. The Laker have to show that their more aggresive. It's a freaken home game. Also, Kobe smashing TV moniters stems from the lack of support from his cast. I totally understand where he's coming from. I almost drop kicked my TV every night I see Kobe flourish and the rest of the Lakers struggle.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I almost drop kicked my TV every night I see Kobe flourish and the rest of the Lakers struggle.</div> lol.....couldn't say it better my self....
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SkiptoMyLue11:</div><div class="quote_post">Anyone read about Kobe saying about the Lakers defending their paint? What Kobe was saying about defending the lane is messed up. Its one thing to play good defense to prevent people penetrating the lane, its another thing to think that occaisional flagrant fouls or unnecessary force should be used to scare people from driving... Thats just unsportsman like.</div> This is basketball, not table tennis. Basketball is better when teams are physically and mentally trying to get at each other. It will truely show who the greats are.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">I disagree, it's called sending a message and letting people know they are going to pay the physical price of attacking your rim. If you look around the league at the best defensive teams, you'll see a constant. They all have a physical presence in the paint and guys willing to foul a player hard. The NBA is a man's game and knocking someone on their butt should be accepted. He's not talking about injurying a player, he's just saying the Lakers need to stop with the tissue soft play on the inside. You have to be mentally prepared to dish it out and take it. </div> I don't think Gregg Popovich would allow Tim Duncan, Nazr, or Rasho purposely flagrant fouling a player to prove a point. You prove a point by good defense, by hard work. If I wanted to see excessive force to prove a point I would watch Hockey. They have plenty of enforcers and revenge plays. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">A lot of players take cheap shots at Kobe, but he understands it's part of the game. He got closed lined by Josh Howard in the Dallas game, because Howard wanted to let him know he didn't appreciate Kobe showing up his team. Then on XMas Kobe and Wade exchanged elbows because neither wanted to back down from the other. However, after the game they exchanged hugs and left the physical play on the court.</div> That just shows Josh Howard is an immature kid. If Kobe didn't retaliate that night then he was the bigger man. The XMas thing sounds like it wasn't on purpose, I have nothing against hard play and if someone gets accidentally elbowed then no problem. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting cliplove777:</div><div class="quote_post">Did you see what Miller did to Kobe? Your telling me Kobe should take that kind of crap from other players. He had to get stiches!!!!! The guy was gushing blood from his head. I approve Kobes actions. The Laker have to show that their more aggresive. It's a freaken home game. Also, Kobe smashing TV moniters stems from the lack of support from his cast. I totally understand where he's coming from. I almost drop kicked my TV every night I see Kobe flourish and the rest of the Lakers struggle.</div> If Kobe accidentally elbowed Ray Allen on a dunk or something, and then Fortson flattened Kobe on the next play, would you approve of that or disapprove of that? I can understand where Kobe's frustration is coming from, his team has had struggles on the court. Personally I wouldn't kick a monitor if I get mad. I might want to, but I would just communicate my anger with my teammates, so it doesn't build up inside. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Laker_fan:</div><div class="quote_post">This is basketball, not table tennis. Basketball is better when teams are physically and mentally trying to get at each other. It will truely show who the greats are.</div> I think what distinguishes Basketball from Hockey is the fact that Basketball has many less revenge fouls than Hockey does. Kobe probably thought Miller did it on purpose, and he probably wanted to help the Lakers. I just don't think it was the most effective method of doing it, nor the most sportsmanlike one. Kobe should have just played on and let the Refs do the job of judging fouls and being the justice on the court.
[imgl]http://makingpages.org/hoops/maloneelbowsrobinson.jpg[/imgl] I'm glad you brought up the Spurs because there was a time when this team was 'soft.' When the Spurs had both David Robinson and Tim Duncan they faced a Utah Jazz team. In the game Karl Malone elbowed David Robinson so hard in the head, he knocked him out cold. NO ONE on the Spurs team did anything about it. It became a defining point for this team and they made necessary changes. The next offseason the Spurs added some toughness and fire to the team. They brought in Mario Elie, Antonio Daniels, and Jerome Kersey. If you don't think the Spurs foul hard and defend the paint you need to watch closely. Specifically watch Bruce Bowen & Manu on the defensive end. The Spurs do not allow easy layups and when they do, Popovich will call a quick timeout or yank the person who made a mistake on the rotation. The Spurs aren't out to physically injure you, but they people out when they drive to the basket. As for the XMas elbows, they were definitely intentional because Wade was hit with a flagrant foul. If your getting beat up by the opposing team and they are getting after you with extra aggression, you wouldn't do anything about it and just take it? Josh Howard clothes lined Kobe Dwayne Wade elbowed Kobe in the chest Mike Miller elbows Kobe and busts open is eye At what point do you say enough is enough and the next time I get hit I'm going to hit someone back?
I don't mind the occasional hard fouls but Kobe has been taking a beating recently, and after the last three or four games I understand the frustration. The Lakers have a really weak mentality and do not have any tough players, which is why I question how good they can really be this year. The team is getting better, but changes are definitely necessary.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think Gregg Popovich would allow Tim Duncan, Nazr, or Rasho purposely flagrant fouling a player to prove a point. You prove a point by good defense, by hard work. </div> Haha that's hilarious. Duncan will foul hard when necessary, and Bowen is probably the dirtiest player in the league. That was a brutal example. The Spurs are as far as you can get in this league from a "clean" team.
