"Chris Paul didn't win the NBA's MVP award, but, as these playoffs have proven, he should have. Nothing against Kobe Bryant, your basic player for the ages, but he hasn't had the kind of season Paul has." Link: http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_9182643 Kobe Bryant's 07-08 Regular Season Stats: 28.3 PPG., 6.3 RPG., 5.4 APG., 1.8 SPG., 0.5 BPG., 38.9 MPG., 46% FG., 36% 3PFG., 84% FT. Chris Paul's 07-08 Regular Season Stats: 21.1 PPG., 4.0 RPG., 11.6 APG., 2.7 SPG., 0.1 BPG., 37.6 MPG., 49% FG., 37% 3PFG., 85% FT. Kobe Bryant's 07-08 Play-off Stats: 34.4 PPG., 5.4 RPG., 6.4 APG., 1.4 SPG., 0.5 BPG., 39.4 MPG., 50% FG., 34% 3PFG., 80% FT. Chris Paul's 07-08 Play-off Stats: 24.3 PPG., 4.9 RPG., 12.1 APG., 2.1 SPG., 0.3 BPG., 40.6 MPG., 50% FG., 28% 3PFG., 78% FT. Paul had a great season, no question about that. But to say he deserves it more than Kobe, is just pushing it. He's talking about how Paul's play in the playoffs proves that he should be MVP. What has been Kobe doing? Look at the stats. Paul and New Orleans had all the momentum coming into the playoffs, especially against a Dallas team in disarray. Their timing couldn't have been better. Kobe has carried this Laker team post Shaq. Sure he had help, like Paul hasn't had any? Paul had a great season, you can't take that away from him. But Kobe had an even greater season, and he has been doing so the last 3 or 4 years now. He deserves the MVP. He is the MVP.
Notice how this article is from the "Denver Post." Not really a big deal in my opinion. Pretty much everyone knows who is the best player in the league, whether they want to admit it or not. These opinions mean nothing. And I'm pretty sure every Laker fan is sick and tired of explaining why Kobe deserves the MVP this year, so I'll just leave it at that
Why are we downplaying Kobe's stats in the Playoffs anyway? The playoffs have just started as well. Sour grapes.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ May 7 2008, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Chris Paul's 07-08 Regular Season Stats: 21.1 PPG., 4.0 RPG., 9.5 APG., 2.3 SPG., 0.0 BPG., 37.6 MPG., 49% FG., 33% 3PFG., 85% FT.</div> Erroneous. His actual regular season stats were 21.1 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 11.6 apg, 2.7 spg, 0.1 bpg in 37.6 mpg, 49% FG%, 37% 3 pt FG, 85% FT. http://www.nba.com/playerfile/chris_paul/ I would have leaned toward Paul personally. His team was one of the elite the entire season and dude averaged 11.6 fuggin apg. I fuggin HATE Chris Paul but I have no choice but to choose him after I've seen him utterly dominate all year. The Lakers were good the whole year but weren't up at the top of the west until they got Pau. Kobe isn't a bad choice, its certainly close between the two. Can't go wrong with either but if it was my vote I'd go Paul.
Run, the Lakers were the #1 seed in the West before Bynum went down, which was before we acquired Gasol...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ May 7 2008, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ May 7 2008, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Chris Paul's 07-08 Regular Season Stats: 21.1 PPG., 4.0 RPG., 9.5 APG., 2.3 SPG., 0.0 BPG., 37.6 MPG., 49% FG., 33% 3PFG., 85% FT.</div> Erroneous. His actual regular season stats were 21.1 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 11.6 apg, 2.7 spg, 0.1 bpg in 37.6 mpg, 49% FG%, 37% 3 pt FG, 85% FT. http://www.nba.com/playerfile/chris_paul/ I would have leaned toward Paul personally. His team was one of the elite the entire season and dude averaged 11.6 fuggin apg. I fuggin HATE Chris Paul but I have no choice but to choose him after I've seen him utterly dominate all year. The Lakers were good the whole year but weren't up at the top of the west until they got Pau. Kobe isn't a bad choice, its certainly close between the two. Can't go wrong with either but if it was my vote I'd go Paul. </div> Thanks for the correction.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ May 7 2008, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Paul's cast is underrated as well.</div> Debatable, however I would say Kobe's supporting cast is much better than Paul's. I think David West is grossly overrated and Morris Peterson is not a legit starter in the NBA. They do have Peja and Chandler who are studs, while West is overrated (IMO) hes still a solid player. Bonzi Wells and Julian Wright are nice players off the bench. However, Gasol is a beast and a borderline franchise guy himself. Hes a legit 20/10 7 footer who can score in the paint, block shots, etc. Odom is a borderline all-star type of guy as well. Hes good for 15/10 a night plus passes very well, hes 6'10 and can swat some shots. As far as role players they have a whole platoon of smart, talented, skilled, and disciplined players; Fisher, Farmar, Radman, Turiaf, Walton, Vujacic. Lets not forget Ariza and Bynum also helped out in 07-08. New Orlean's supporting cast is certainly pretty solid but LA's is among the best without a doubt. You've got two guys who could be all-stars on any given year and a slew of role players who Phil has made into fantastic players within the triangle.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ May 7 2008, 10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ May 7 2008, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Paul's cast is underrated as well.</div> Debatable, however I would say Kobe's supporting cast is much better than Paul's. I think David West is grossly overrated and Morris Peterson is not a legit starter in the NBA. They do have Peja and Chandler who are studs, while West is overrated (IMO) hes still a solid player. Bonzi Wells and Julian Wright are nice players off the bench. However, Gasol is a beast and a borderline franchise guy himself. Hes a legit 20/10 7 footer who can score in the paint, block shots, etc. Odom is a borderline all-star type of guy as well. Hes good for 15/10 a night plus passes very well, hes 6'10 and can swat some shots. As far as role players they have a whole platoon of smart, talented, skilled, and disciplined players; Fisher, Farmar, Radman, Turiaf, Walton, Vujacic. Lets not forget Ariza and Bynum also helped out in 07-08. New Orlean's supporting cast is certainly pretty solid but LA's is among the best without a doubt. You've got two guys who could be all-stars on any given year and a slew of role players who Phil has made into fantastic players within the triangle. </div> Gasol played 27 games, Bynum played 35. Lamar is grossly overrated on offense, and he only played well the last 30 games (only managing to be slightly above average overall for the year). NO gets the edge there.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ May 7 2008, 10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ May 7 2008, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Paul's cast is underrated as well.</div> Debatable, however I would say Kobe's supporting cast is much better than Paul's. I think David West is grossly overrated and Morris Peterson is not a legit starter in the NBA. They do have Peja and Chandler who are studs, while West is overrated (IMO) hes still a solid player. Bonzi Wells and Julian Wright are nice players off the bench. However, Gasol is a beast and a borderline franchise guy himself. Hes a legit 20/10 7 footer who can score in the paint, block shots, etc. Odom is a borderline all-star type of guy as well. Hes good for 15/10 a night plus passes very well, hes 6'10 and can swat some shots. As far as role players they have a whole platoon of smart, talented, skilled, and disciplined players; Fisher, Farmar, Radman, Turiaf, Walton, Vujacic. Lets not forget Ariza and Bynum also helped out in 07-08. New Orlean's supporting cast is certainly pretty solid but LA's is among the best without a doubt. You've got two guys who could be all-stars on any given year and a slew of role players who Phil has made into fantastic players within the triangle. </div> Paul's cast may be underrated compared to Kobe's, maybe because Bryant just makes his teammates that much better. You know how they say that great players make their teammates better, right huevonkiller? Maybe Paul's not making his teammates better?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ May 7 2008, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ May 7 2008, 10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ May 7 2008, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Paul's cast is underrated as well.</div> Debatable, however I would say Kobe's supporting cast is much better than Paul's. I think David West is grossly overrated and Morris Peterson is not a legit starter in the NBA. They do have Peja and Chandler who are studs, while West is overrated (IMO) hes still a solid player. Bonzi Wells and Julian Wright are nice players off the bench. However, Gasol is a beast and a borderline franchise guy himself. Hes a legit 20/10 7 footer who can score in the paint, block shots, etc. Odom is a borderline all-star type of guy as well. Hes good for 15/10 a night plus passes very well, hes 6'10 and can swat some shots. As far as role players they have a whole platoon of smart, talented, skilled, and disciplined players; Fisher, Farmar, Radman, Turiaf, Walton, Vujacic. Lets not forget Ariza and Bynum also helped out in 07-08. New Orlean's supporting cast is certainly pretty solid but LA's is among the best without a doubt. You've got two guys who could be all-stars on any given year and a slew of role players who Phil has made into fantastic players within the triangle. </div> Gasol played 27 games, Bynum played 35. Lamar is grossly overrated on offense, and he only played well the last 30 games (only managing to be slightly above average overall for the year). NO gets the edge there. </div> No point in arguing if your mind is already made up.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ May 7 2008, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ May 7 2008, 10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ May 7 2008, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Paul's cast is underrated as well.</div> Debatable, however I would say Kobe's supporting cast is much better than Paul's. I think David West is grossly overrated and Morris Peterson is not a legit starter in the NBA. They do have Peja and Chandler who are studs, while West is overrated (IMO) hes still a solid player. Bonzi Wells and Julian Wright are nice players off the bench. However, Gasol is a beast and a borderline franchise guy himself. Hes a legit 20/10 7 footer who can score in the paint, block shots, etc. Odom is a borderline all-star type of guy as well. Hes good for 15/10 a night plus passes very well, hes 6'10 and can swat some shots. As far as role players they have a whole platoon of smart, talented, skilled, and disciplined players; Fisher, Farmar, Radman, Turiaf, Walton, Vujacic. Lets not forget Ariza and Bynum also helped out in 07-08. New Orlean's supporting cast is certainly pretty solid but LA's is among the best without a doubt. You've got two guys who could be all-stars on any given year and a slew of role players who Phil has made into fantastic players within the triangle. </div> Paul's cast may be underrated compared to Kobe's, maybe because Bryant just makes his teammates that much better. You know how they say that great players make their teammates better, right huevonkiller? Maybe Paul's doing it all for just... Chris Paul. </div> NO's starting front court played 93 more combined games than Bynum + Gasol, it's nothing to ignore. Per minute, he hasn't made Tyson or Peja better at all. David West's improvement is a combination of Paul and him just being in the league longer. Pau also had a career year with Kobe. Paul clearly gets the edge as far as the talent around him is concerned.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ May 7 2008, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ May 7 2008, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ May 7 2008, 10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ May 7 2008, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Paul's cast is underrated as well.</div> Debatable, however I would say Kobe's supporting cast is much better than Paul's. I think David West is grossly overrated and Morris Peterson is not a legit starter in the NBA. They do have Peja and Chandler who are studs, while West is overrated (IMO) hes still a solid player. Bonzi Wells and Julian Wright are nice players off the bench. However, Gasol is a beast and a borderline franchise guy himself. Hes a legit 20/10 7 footer who can score in the paint, block shots, etc. Odom is a borderline all-star type of guy as well. Hes good for 15/10 a night plus passes very well, hes 6'10 and can swat some shots. As far as role players they have a whole platoon of smart, talented, skilled, and disciplined players; Fisher, Farmar, Radman, Turiaf, Walton, Vujacic. Lets not forget Ariza and Bynum also helped out in 07-08. New Orlean's supporting cast is certainly pretty solid but LA's is among the best without a doubt. You've got two guys who could be all-stars on any given year and a slew of role players who Phil has made into fantastic players within the triangle. </div> Gasol played 27 games, Bynum played 35. Lamar is grossly overrated on offense, and he only played well the last 30 games (only managing to be slightly above average overall for the year). NO gets the edge there. </div> No point in arguing if your mind is already made up. </div> No point in arguing if your mind is already made up. It is agreed then. Congratulations.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ May 7 2008, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why are we downplaying Kobe's stats in the Playoffs anyway? The playoffs have just started as well. Sour grapes.</div> How can you downplay Kobe's stats in the Playoffs? They look just as good, if not better than, Paul's stats. I'm a bit puzzled by this article. I have a feeling he's retarded. It's not really all that possible for a player to average that many points when he's barely playing. His argument of David West's improvement because of a Paul is a moot point because of that. Also, Paul sure as hell didn't get him that jump shot. And Tyson's improvement should be noted with the fact thay West's jumpshot opens up the paint for him, and he plays an additional 10 more minutes per game since coming to New Orleans. And he plays in a different offense in New Orleans than in Chicago. This writer really seems retarded. Or just lazy as hell.
Ah, also please excuse any grammatical errors, I have edited my posts. I am swamped with paperwork right now. : O
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ May 7 2008, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ May 7 2008, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ May 7 2008, 10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ May 7 2008, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Paul's cast is underrated as well.</div> Debatable, however I would say Kobe's supporting cast is much better than Paul's. I think David West is grossly overrated and Morris Peterson is not a legit starter in the NBA. They do have Peja and Chandler who are studs, while West is overrated (IMO) hes still a solid player. Bonzi Wells and Julian Wright are nice players off the bench. However, Gasol is a beast and a borderline franchise guy himself. Hes a legit 20/10 7 footer who can score in the paint, block shots, etc. Odom is a borderline all-star type of guy as well. Hes good for 15/10 a night plus passes very well, hes 6'10 and can swat some shots. As far as role players they have a whole platoon of smart, talented, skilled, and disciplined players; Fisher, Farmar, Radman, Turiaf, Walton, Vujacic. Lets not forget Ariza and Bynum also helped out in 07-08. New Orlean's supporting cast is certainly pretty solid but LA's is among the best without a doubt. You've got two guys who could be all-stars on any given year and a slew of role players who Phil has made into fantastic players within the triangle. </div> Paul's cast may be underrated compared to Kobe's, maybe because Bryant just makes his teammates that much better. You know how they say that great players make their teammates better, right huevonkiller? Maybe Paul's doing it all for just... Chris Paul. </div> NO's starting front court played 93 more combined games than Bynum + Gasol, it's nothing to ignore. Per minute, he hasn't made Tyson or Peja better at all. David West's improvement is a combination of Paul and him just being in the league longer. Pau also had a career year with Kobe. Paul clearly gets the edge. </div> So are you saying that Paul's cast has had better impact than Kobe's? Or Paul hasn't made his teammates better? And it's because of this that he clearly gets the edge.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ May 7 2008, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ May 7 2008, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (insider @ May 7 2008, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ May 7 2008, 10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ May 7 2008, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Paul's cast is underrated as well.</div> Debatable, however I would say Kobe's supporting cast is much better than Paul's. I think David West is grossly overrated and Morris Peterson is not a legit starter in the NBA. They do have Peja and Chandler who are studs, while West is overrated (IMO) hes still a solid player. Bonzi Wells and Julian Wright are nice players off the bench. However, Gasol is a beast and a borderline franchise guy himself. Hes a legit 20/10 7 footer who can score in the paint, block shots, etc. Odom is a borderline all-star type of guy as well. Hes good for 15/10 a night plus passes very well, hes 6'10 and can swat some shots. As far as role players they have a whole platoon of smart, talented, skilled, and disciplined players; Fisher, Farmar, Radman, Turiaf, Walton, Vujacic. Lets not forget Ariza and Bynum also helped out in 07-08. New Orlean's supporting cast is certainly pretty solid but LA's is among the best without a doubt. You've got two guys who could be all-stars on any given year and a slew of role players who Phil has made into fantastic players within the triangle. </div> Paul's cast may be underrated compared to Kobe's, maybe because Bryant just makes his teammates that much better. You know how they say that great players make their teammates better, right huevonkiller? Maybe Paul's doing it all for just... Chris Paul. </div> NO's starting front court played 93 more combined games than Bynum + Gasol, it's nothing to ignore. Per minute, he hasn't made Tyson or Peja better at all. David West's improvement is a combination of Paul and him just being in the league longer. Pau also had a career year with Kobe. Paul clearly gets the edge. </div> So are you saying that Paul's cast has had better impact than Kobe's? Or Paul hasn't made his teammates better? And it's because of this that he clearly gets the edge. </div> Lol, like I said, I just finished editing that, but I hope it is clear to you now. What I said in the first part should have made it obvious though.
Someone burn this book. Kobe's team is the only undefeated team in the playoffs. Since the MVP is how you make your team better, then Kobe wins both regular season and playoffs. They're 6-0 so far and are showing no signs of letting up. Everyone needs to get the **** off Chris Paul's nuts already and let Kobe enjoy his god damn award.
