KP's interest in Conley

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  1. Fez Hammersticks

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    The summer of 2005 KP was yelling to get Chris Paul.

    Last year KP tried to get in on the Dallas/Jersey deal to land us Devin Harris.

    The guy obviously knows his PG's. Shouldn't we put more faith in him with his infatuation with Mike Conley?

    During the 07 draft KP tried to land Conley. Last year there were talks also. Conley is playing like absolute garbage right now but his ceiling is pretty high. He's just having a down year and his numbers are comparable to Devin's at the same age.

    In KP we trust?
     
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    I'm not so sure he's after Conley. That leak or leaks may be coming from Conley's dad/agent.
     
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    Free Bayless.
     
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    It really all depends on what we're trading and what we're getting back.

    I'm not interested in dealing Bayless at this point, and I don't really see anything on their roster that intrigues me (outside of Conley).

    At the moment, I'd say that Raymond Felton is a better prospect than Conley.
     
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    My problem with this, or rather, with fans discussing it is, if Conley was on our team, he would be a great prospect, the next...whoever. But since he is on another team, every flaw seems to be picked out. Now, I am fine with picking out flaws in a players game we might be looking to obtain, but after 15 games, we have Batum as the next Pippen, and Conley is never going to amount to anything, it would seem. I think a portion of that, as well, is not watching him, but rather looking specifically at stats. Again, if that was used for our players, the numbers for guys like Batum, Sergio, etc. might look pretty poor. And there are stretches where they make mistakes. But since we see them, we can see the flashes that make them look good.

    Much the same way most Blazer fans seemed to mock Laker fans last year for hyping Bynum for putting up 13-10-2.5, with flashes of greatness in different games that they saw. Fast forward, and we see flashes of greatness in Greg, but if we went just off of #s, it would be easy to criticize what he has done so far. Not sure specifically what I am trying to get at, but in general am, for one, always amazed at the quick dismissal of other players by our fans, and then the general insistence that our young guys can easily to develop to X, while another team's players will never achieve that sort of ability.
     
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    How is Felton a better prospect? He's Jarret Jack with some more minutes.
     
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    well he wasnt really on the mark with sergio, and we have his pg-bayless.....theres is no proof he's been after conley, i want to hear it out of his mouth. speaking of which he has been doing less interviews, or is that just me?
     
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    I don't want Bayless to go anywhere!
     
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    The reason why most Blazer fans have been critical of Conely to date would probably be attributed largely to the asking price. Until now, most trades involving Conley were rather steep. The Grizzlies held Conley in high regard, so any trade would have involved quite a bit of talent going to Memphis. Now, with Conley maybe not playing quite as well as people thought, some are hoping that Conley might be had at a lesser price. I guess it remains to be seen.
     
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    You take that back! We do not speak of he who shall not be named.
     
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    Brandon Roy himself said that Bayless is a natural SG. It'll be a while before we can convert, if possible, Bayless into a PG.

    Conley is certainly a better prospect than Felton. Conley is a pure PG with great quickness. He was the best PG in the country as a Freshman, IMO. Felton is more of a combo. Last year there was an article stating that Felton was more effective at SG. In fact, Felton has been starting at the two this season.

    Conley is a PG.

    Bayless and Felton aren't.
     
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    As for Outlaw being the asking price, and being too high, I do remember quite a few Blazer fans insisting last year that they would not include him in a deal for Devin Harris. Buy low, sell high.

    Also not sure what you have against Jack, to where he has to go unnamed.
     
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    What's up Nate? Guess who I saw playin' hoops up at 24 HR today?????
     
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    Can you provide some evidence that Pritchard loves Conley? As in, actual quotes from Pritchard? The rumours floating around don't count. There's no reason to believe any of them were based in actual talks between the teams. 90% of rumours, if not more, are completely made up.

    Obviously, if you like Conley, you are going to be inclined to believe that the rumours were smoke from actual fire, because it validates your interest in Conley. Objectively, though, I don't see much reason to believe that it was any more than idle speculation, either from a Memphis writer or some anonymous staffer on the Grizzlies.
     
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    He ranks higher in assists than most point guards. He's 22nd in the league at 5.2 a game and he's splitting time with DJ Augistin at the point. The last two seasons he was putting up over 7.0 assists per game. I don't see how he's a combo. Jarrett Jack has never averaged more than 5.3 assists per game.
     
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    Hey man. Greg Oden's little brother?
     
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    you're probably somewhat right as some BS does get posted here, but I can assure you that there are also some true hoops fans here who call it like they see it with Blazer and non-Blazer players. You seem to be making some sweeping judgments/characterizations for someone with only 18 posts

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    yup. Don't believe the hype

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    Sorry, didn't know I had to post 5 times a day to be able to make generalizations. I would think, in general, and again, this is making a generalization, so I apologize, but I would think that most would be able to read a generalization, and know it doesn't refer to every single person who reads, posts, and talks about the Blazers. And would think that I can do that by making one post a day or 6, but I'll try to boost my post total a bit so I can make generalizations in the future with more to back them, i suppose.
     

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