Kwame in Atlanta?

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  1. Mamba

    Mamba The King is Back Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Rumors are that ATL is willing to offer Kwame a lot of money, enough to draw him away from the Wizards. So a couple of questions arise...How will Kwame perform in his homestate? Will it be a sign and trade? How will it effect the Wizards?

    How will Kwame perfom in his home state?- I think Kwame would perform well there. Why? Becuase it is a fresh start for him, a coach that would trust him, other young players around (Josh Smith, Josh Childress, this years draft pick). He would be atleast option #2 down there. He would get shots and everything else needed to succeed. Kwame is what ATL needs IMO. A lineup of
    PG- Draft Pick (they would have enough offense, Felton maybe?)
    SG- Childress
    SF- Al Harrington
    PF- Josh Smith
    C- Kwame


    Will it be a sign and trade?- More than likely it would be IMO. Washington isn't going to give him up for free, I would expect them to try and get something out of Atlanta.

    How will it effect Washington- It won't effect us much IMO. Will Kwame become another Jermaine O'neal type player? More than likely yes..but hey what is another lost big man to us (Big Ben, Rasheed, Webber)? Eddie Jordan has shown that he wants to go with small, guard-oriented ball, not utilizing Kwame and Haywood to their full potential. Ernie Grunfeld has already stated that he will sign Hughes back at whatever cost. The only way Kwame comes back to Washington, Eddie Jordan leaves. They can't co-exist with each other, Eddie has no faith in him and loves small-ball, not something for Kwame.

    But, like I said...it won't effect Washington much, we have won all year without him, if Antawn could accept his role as 3rd option and stop forcing shots next year, we could be even better.


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  2. Shapecity

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    The only way this could work is a sign and trade. However, Atlanta only has a few players they could trade to match contracts.

    Al Harrington $6.8M
    Tony Delk $3.4M
    Predrag Drobnjak $3.1M
    2005 1st Round Pick

    I doubt the Hawks trade Harrington, and I doubt the Wizards give up Kwame for only Delk and Drobnjak. A third team would have to get involved, but I don't see the Wizards trading him to a team in their division. If he turns out to be another Jermain O'neal then the Wizards would have to play against that 4 times a year for the next 10 years.
     
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    It could also work if the Hawks offer Kwame an amount the Wizards aren't willing to match. Remember the Wiz also have to sign Hughes in the off-season, Hughes should obviously make more than Kwame, and if Kwame get's a contract that starts at more than 6-7 million, I don't know if the Wiz would be able to retain him because Hughes should get about 8-9 million starting.

    In a case like that, the Wizards would match to sign and trade, but won't get the value they want in return. If that does happen, a draft pick would be good, something like Boris Diaw and a first round pick for Kwame. It would work since the Hawks are under the cap and can take Kwame's projected contract without going over.

    Looking at the Hawks if they signed Kwame, their lineup would be:

    PG: They should get one this draft
    SG: Childress
    SF: Smith
    PF: Harrington
    C: Kwame

    That's a lineup that could possibly be winning championships in the future.
     
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    I hope the Hawks get Kwame somehow, I dont really care how we get him unless we're giving up Harrington or any other part of our young core (Childress & J-Smoove). Kwame is said to be a wasted pick, but that hasnt been proven yet, he hasnt had much success so far in his career but I'm sure that he can succeed in the right enviroment. Oh, God I hope he comes to Atlanta.
     
  5. og15

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    Kwame is definately not a wasted pick, he can put up 15 and 10, and even on the Wizards for the rest of the year if he get's the minutes, he can put up about 12 points and 9-10 rebounds. If he went to the Hawks, it would definately be very good for him and the Hawks individually, but I wouldn't be too happy as a Wizards fan.
     
  6. Mamba

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    I would be pissed as a Wiz fan, but happy as a Kwame fan. I honestly see him putting up 18-10 as a Hawk if he stays healthy.
     
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    Josh Smith would not last in your lineup K8B, he is a finesse player and would get destroyed. If they ahve Felton, Childress, and Smith next year, I will be a huge Hawks fan. If there lineup looks like what og15 said than he is right if they grow together a few championships can be one. They still need that one player though, that makes everything click.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">^
    It could also work if the Hawks offer Kwame an amount the Wizards aren't willing to match. Remember the Wiz also have to sign Hughes in the off-season, Hughes should obviously make more than Kwame, and if Kwame get's a contract that starts at more than 6-7 million, I don't know if the Wiz would be able to retain him because Hughes should get about 8-9 million starting.

    In a case like that, the Wizards would match to sign and trade, but won't get the value they want in return. If that does happen, a draft pick would be good, something like Boris Diaw and a first round pick for Kwame. It would work since the Hawks are under the cap and can take Kwame's projected contract without going over.

    Looking at the Hawks if they signed Kwame, their lineup would be:

    PG: They should get one this draft
    SG: Childress
    SF: Smith
    PF: Harrington
    C: Kwame

    That's a lineup that could possibly be winning championships in the future.</div>

    We already offered Kwame a contract for more than that, 4 years @ 30Mil thats over 7mil a year, that offer is still on the table. I can imagine that we would be willing to go to 8mil, so I think we will match most offers put up. I doubt alot of teams will be willing to pay him more than that. This franchise has been notoriously cheap & stupid but I think that they see the potential this team & are willing to throw some dough to keep these kids together. We have some of the best team chemistry in the league & they know it. Hopefully Pollin has left everything up to Grunfield, if thats the case then you know we're in good hands.
     
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    Yea Kwame is definatly to a wasted pick, he is just yet to show his real potential. He never really fit in in Washington. Hopefully he can come to his hometown ATL and preform like he did in High School! If they Hawks can get him and a good point guard in the draft, their team would look pretty good next year, and in the years to come, because that is a very very very young team. Plus if they get a point guard with their first pick, they still have another first-round pick to get like a sixth-man or something.

    Starting Lineup

    PG: Draft Pick
    SG: Josh Smith
    SF: Josh Childress
    PF: Al Harrington
    C: Kwame Brown
     
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    Kwame has been too lazy to become a Jermaine O'Neal and unless we wakes up soon,he won't be starting anywhere. He looked better as a rookie than he does now
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting REREM:</div><div class="quote_post">Kwame has been too lazy to become a Jermaine O'Neal and unless we wakes up soon,he won't be starting anywhere. He looked better as a rookie than he does now</div>

    Yea, putting on about 20 pounds of muscle in the offseason (before finally losing about 10 of it to become quicker again) is really lazy? He is a much better, more active rebounder now than he has been in the past. He is getting after balls, he has worked on his jump shot. His stamina is low right now and his shot is rusty right now because he isn't used to the speed of the game, he has only been 100% healthy this year for about 4 or 5 games, of course he is going to look bad. But to say he looked better in his rookie year, is funny.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">PG: Draft Pick
    SG: Josh Smith
    SF: Josh Childress
    PF: Al Harrington
    C: Kwame Brown
    </div>

    If thats what their line up would be i dont think it would work. they need a vetran. I do like Childress and Josh Smith but i just think that they either need a draft pick like Ben Gordan (worked for the bulls) or a good vetran. it would be interesting if they got a veteran like Nick Van Exel, but im sure he dosent want to go there.
     
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    They have Tom Gugliotta off the bench lol
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">^
    It could also work if the Hawks offer Kwame an amount the Wizards aren't willing to match. Remember the Wiz also have to sign Hughes in the off-season, Hughes should obviously make more than Kwame, and if Kwame get's a contract that starts at more than 6-7 million, I don't know if the Wiz would be able to retain him because Hughes should get about 8-9 million starting.

    In a case like that, the Wizards would match to sign and trade, but won't get the value they want in return. If that does happen, a draft pick would be good, something like Boris Diaw and a first round pick for Kwame. It would work since the Hawks are under the cap and can take Kwame's projected contract without going over.

    Looking at the Hawks if they signed Kwame, their lineup would be:

    PG: They should get one this draft
    SG: Childress
    SF: Smith
    PF: Harrington
    C: Kwame

    That's a lineup that could possibly be winning championships in the future.</div>
    Are you kidding me, that pathetic lineup winning championships. The only thing that lineup might win is a lottery pick. Face it by the time those guys develop into decent players they will have moved on to other teams. The best bet for the Hawks is to stockpile draft picks anf hope for the best, Kwame is not the answer.
     
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    i dunno

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Kwame is definately not a wasted pick, he can put up 15 and 10, and even on the Wizards for the rest of the year if he get's the minutes, he can put up about 12 points and 9-10 rebounds. If he went to the Hawks, it would definately be very good for him and the Hawks individually, but I wouldn't be too happy as a Wizards fan.</div>
    he is a wasted pick but they should still keep him.
     

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