Lamar Odom or Richard Jefferson?

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  1. James17_Dunn

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    Thoughts?
     
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    RJ. Lamar is too inconsistent, and I feel can never be anything more than a 2nd option. RJ, without Kidd and before VC arrived, was carrying that Nets team with some impressive numbers.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>RJ. Lamar is too inconsistent, and I feel can never be anything more than a 2nd option. RJ, without Kidd and before VC arrived, was carrying that Nets team with some impressive numbers.</div>Exactly what I was gonna say. But I dont agree with how you said RJ was carrying New Jersey before Kidd and Carter came because K-Mart and Keith Van Horn were both better than RJ because he was just a rookie.I also pick RJ.
     
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    No, I was talking about early in the 2004-2005 season, when Kmart was with Nuggets, nets were rebuilding, and Kidd was hurt. VC didn't arrive until December.
     
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    Oh I get it. Sorry my bad.
     
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    I'm taking Odom. Richard is the better defender, but Odom will give you 17 points a game, 10 rpg, and he can run an offense real well. He is a great player to have on your roster. I'm taking him here.
     
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    I dont agree with what you said about Odom. If he puts up 17 points in one game, he will have like 8 the next. He only averages 14 ppg.compare these numbers:Richard Jefferson: 19 ppgLamar Odom: 15 ppgRJ puts up more points than Odom
     
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    That's true. I found he was to unselfish last year. He averaged 17 ppg with Miami, but the last two years he's only averaged 15. I still stand by my choice though. Lamar is a great passer, and he can run an offense. Jefferson will give you more scoring and defense, but Lamar is one of the rare big's that can run an offense, and play both SF, and PF. He stretches out defenses.
     
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    Rj by far, Rj can actually defend the ball. Odom is a sub par scorer, but Rj brings in 20 ppg per night, and hes a better rebounder then Odom. Odom is just a weed addict, that can't play by side Kobe bryant.
     
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    Jefferson the better defender? That is bullsh**.Lamar Odom rpg: 9.2Richard Jefferson rpg: 6.8No way in hell is Richard better than Lamar at rebounding.
     
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    Lamar Odom is the better overall player but Richard Jefferson has more potential and will be a better overall player than Lamar Odom. This is a comparison as of right now so I'll have to take Lamar Odom on my team if I were to win build a championship team. Odom has more experience,can rebound with force,can play various positions, and is one of the most best passers and one of the most underrated forwards in the league.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Sep 5 2006, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Jefferson the better defender? That is bullsh**.Lamar Odom rpg: 9.2Richard Jefferson rpg: 6.8No way in hell is Richard better than Lamar at rebounding.</div>I am sorry I don't look at stats all day, just basing of off what I have seen, and I am seeing is that the Nets are the best team in the atlantic division, and that the Lakers offense is only revolving around Kobe, because no one else on the Lakers can get it done. Rj is so a better defender, the Lakers are a horrible defensive team, and Lamar and doing anything to help that, you honestly don't know what you're talking about.
     
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    Well, I dont care if you are judging by what you've seen. I just proved you wrong. Jefferson is not the better renounder. Lamar cant get it done offensively?. 15 ppg on 48% sucks for a swingman, right? The thing is that Lamar is just too unselfish sometimes. Sometimes he just needs to shoot.And the Lakers are a horrible defensive team? You're wrong again. They were 15th in points allowed, which is average, not horrible. Horrible would be 25th or below. They have good defensive players in Kobe, and Kwame Brown. They do not have a terrible defense.
     
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    You haven't proved anything wrong, you probally never even watch the Lakers play, you just base your whole arguement of off stats, 15 ppg of off 50 percent shooting is good, but Rj is un-selfish too, hes the secondary scorer on his team just like Odom, and he actually gets it done on the court. RJ> Odom, plain and simple.
     
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    I'll take Odom over RJ. Mainly because Odom finished puberty.Serioulsy though, Lamar can do a lot, he's not getting the credit he deserves.
     
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    He was in Miami as a star player, and he was still sucking it up.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (S i C k N e S S @ Sep 5 2006, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You haven't proved anything wrong, you probally never even watch the Lakers play, you just base your whole arguement of off stats, 15 ppg of off 50 percent shooting is good, but Rj is un-selfish too, hes the secondary scorer on his team just like Odom, and he actually gets it done on the court. RJ> Odom, plain and simple.</div>Dude, your reasons suck.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (S i C k N e S S @ Sep 5 2006, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He was in Miami as a star player, and he was still sucking it up.</div>Sucking? He scored 17, 10, 4 apg. Again, you lost all respect from me.
     
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    I would take Lamar. He is the better rebounder. I dont even know what sickness is talking about.....Stats do prove alot actually. It proves consistency because you have to do that night in and night out. Also, Lamar is a great post up player going to his left. He has an excellent touch around the basket. He is just more versatile. RJ is the better defender but that is only because Lamar sometimes has to guard PF's who are bigger than him. I would take Lamar. He can do more on the offensive end.
     
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    i pick lamar not because he's with the lakers it's bec. he can create more match up problems............he can help bring down the ball, he can post up players (shooting forwards), he can penetrate against power forwards, he can block shots, he can rebound...........btw don't look at last years number, look at their career numbers.Odom - 15.8 pts 8.5 reb 4.6 astRj - 16.3 pts 5.8 reb 3.1 astNOTE: Odom is always a threat for a triple double, now which one is better ???
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lakersfoelyfe @ Sep 6 2006, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i pick lamar not because he's with the lakers it's bec. he can create more match up problems............he can help bring down the ball, he can post up players (shooting forwards), he can penetrate against power forwards, he can block shots, he can rebound...........btw don't look at last years number, look at their career numbers.Odom - 15.8 pts 8.5 reb 4.6 astRj - 16.3 pts 5.8 reb 3.1 astNOTE: Odom is always a threat for a triple double, now which one is better ???</div>Still RJ. Odom will never become a first option. RJ has shown when players are hurt and team is absolute garbage that he can get it done and lead a team (before VC arrived in 2004 when Kidd was hurt). He is a better scorer, he is far more consistent, and he is the much better defender.
     

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