Las Vegas, KC, Anaheim Kings?

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  1. Whatthef?

    Whatthef? Sactown Laker

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    Where are the Kings most likely to wind up? Will they take the Monarch's with them? At this win rate, they will never get public funding for a new arena in Sac and the Maloofs won't anty up any time soon, and they need funds to pay for their Playboy Club in Vegas, so where will the team relocate to?[​IMG]
     
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    Some other location in SAC. San Diego would be nice.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting whatthef?:</div><div class="quote_post">Where are the Kings most likely to wind up? Will they take the Monarch's with them? At this win rate, they will never get public funding for a new arena in Sac and the Maloofs won't anty up any time soon, and they need funds to pay for their Playboy Club in Vegas, so where will the team relocate to?[​IMG]</div> WRONG. I guess youre one of the many kids thats unaware of the Kings tickets sales #'s while theyve been in Sacramento. Win % doesnt play a factor as long as the Kings have some of the most loyal fans in sports. At any rate, this is a stupid thread.
     
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    Maloofs have plenty of money to build a new arena, problem is they are just too cheap.
     
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    For location, Anaheim/San Diego/SoCal is a dumb move. Lakers and Clippers own the area down there, don't need a third team imposing. Kansas City would be different, good football fan base there I don't think basketball could hurt. But anymove for the Kings would be most likely Las Vegas. Las Vegas has proved to have a good Kings fanbase over there, and the money to construct a new arena in LV is all there.
     
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    why is it only lakers fans posting in this thread? stop hating. Its not even certain theyll leave sacramento.
     
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    The Kings are not going to leave Sacramento anytime soon. I think a more realistic scenario might be the Maloofs selling this team and then purchasing another team and relocating it. Milwaukee Bucks for example.

    Right now it's just a game of chicken and both sides have good arguments. The Maloofs want a new stadium because they are confident they can sell more luxury box seats and will create more jobs and tax revenue for the city.
    Also they think it will increase the property value of the surrounding area and attract other businesses to move into (I forget the city name.)

    It's an interesting case study, but as long as David Stern remains commissioner, I do not see any team making it's way to Vegas.
     
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    How is this a stupid thread? You dont even live in Sacramento...
    The community here is cheap and aren't really loyal fans so they could care less what happens to the Kings now that they are losing, and the Maloofs dont care to build the arena themselves(shows how dedicated they are). Maybe the team wont be moved to Vegas, but theres always the chnace they will be moved. I mean c'mon, even if you leave the Kings out of the picture, Arco Arena is the biggest peice of crap in the area. The Mondavi center at UC Davis down the road is brand new and is way nicer than Arco. Yeah I know thats a theatre, but they got a plenty of money to ay for that thing. The Maloofs need to build a new damn arena already. Everyone in Sacramento, Kings fans or not, are sick of that big grey excuse for an arena.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The community here is cheap and aren't really loyal fans so they could care less what happens to the Kings now that they are losing.</div> I can understand some bandwagoners not caring, but the people in sacramento? The Kings had no problem selling tickets when they were HORRIBLE in the 90's. The Kings have one of the most loyal fanbases in the league. That fanbase has bought a TON of tickets for a LOONNNGGGG time. I honestly dont think you know what youre talking about.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GiantMidget:</div><div class="quote_post">I can understand some bandwagoners not caring, but the people in sacramento? The Kings have one of the most loyal fanbases in the league. That fanbase has bought a TON of tickets for a LOONNNGGGG time. I honestly dont think you know what youre talking about.</div>

    Here in lies the main problem with Arco. It has very limited capacity and it's just not up to par with a lot of newer stadiums. All those ammenities a team can offer to attract and retain players don't exist in Arco. It also doesn't accomadate the high profile corporate customers. They want more luxury boxes to sell to businesses.

    The Maloofs are all about image and entertainment value, without a new stadium they can't accomplish their goals. Right now neither side is willing to compromise and if the Maloofs don't get what they want they'll abandon this team and city.

    You cannot blame them either. They resurrected this team and made it exciting for the Sacramento fans to support the team again. The city has benefitted from the popularity of the Kings, but now the city isn't willing to invest in it's future.

    These fans aren't as loyal as you think GiantMidget. When this team was losing they were struggling to give tickets away. They've been very supportive since the Maloofs took over and put a winning team on the court, and spent a lot of money in the process.
     
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    Whatthef? Sactown Laker

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    Not about loyalty, it's about $

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GiantMidget:</div><div class="quote_post">I can understand some bandwagoners not caring, but the people in sacramento? The Kings had no problem selling tickets when they were HORRIBLE in the 90's. The Kings have one of the most loyal fanbases in the league. That fanbase has bought a TON of tickets for a LOONNNGGGG time. I honestly dont think you know what youre talking about.</div>

    Kings fans are loyal, but they are only a small % of the local population and Nocal citizens are not stupid enough to hand over millions to Casino owners who don't want to help the Sacto community while they build new casinos in Las Vegas with private funding. The Maloofs won't sell the Kings because they know they can find some other suckers to finance an NBA team in another city. Anaheim and KC have empty stadiums and will cut the owners a good deal to bring them there to fill the vacancy. The Maloofs will just broadcast Warriors games on their cable channel when the Queens move on.
     
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    i hope KC cuz i live there and we are in need of a bball team. We re building an arena used for arena football or hockey. WHO CARES ABOUT THOSE!!! we already have another arena for them but dont use it. WE NEED A BBALL TEAM!!!
     
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    Whatthef? Sactown Laker

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    why not Las Vegas Kings?

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting whatthef?:</div><div class="quote_post">Kings fans are loyal, but they are only a small % of the local population and Nocal citizens are not stupid enough to hand over millions to Casino owners who don't want to help the Sacto community while they build new casinos in Las Vegas with private funding. The Maloofs won't sell the Kings because they know they can find some other suckers to finance an NBA team in another city. Anaheim and KC have empty stadiums and will cut the owners a good deal to bring them there to fill the vacancy. The Maloofs will just broadcast Warriors games on their cable channel when the Queens move on.</div>

    What is the rationale that Las Vegas couldn't be a home to an NBA team, with the internet and indian casinos on every corner of the earth, anyone who wants to place a bet, can. Anybody know why the NBA is against it.
     
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    It seems to me that the only people posting in this thread are mostly laker fans. The thread was even created by a laker fan. Stupid excuse to hate on the Kings forum.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting whatthef?:</div><div class="quote_post">What is the rationale that Las Vegas couldn't be a home to an NBA team, with the internet and indian casinos on every corner of the earth, anyone who wants to place a bet, can. Anybody know why the NBA is against it.</div>

    It comes down to David Stern's "image" of the NBA. He doesn't want the NBA being associated with casinos, sportsbooks etc. (even though it all ready is) and probably would get the rest of the owners to vote against it. In the past I think he could have made an argument the local residents wouldn't be able to support the team. However, Las Vegas is one of the fastest growing cities in the U.S. and there is plenty of land to build a state of the art facility. Until the perception that LV is not just "sin city" I just don't see Stern allowing it. The decision has everything to do with politics.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting KG-MVP:</div><div class="quote_post">How is this a stupid thread? You dont even live in Sacramento...
    The community here is cheap and aren't really loyal fans so they could care less what happens to the Kings now that they are losing, and the Maloofs dont care to build the arena themselves(shows how dedicated they are). Maybe the team wont be moved to Vegas, but theres always the chnace they will be moved. I mean c'mon, even if you leave the Kings out of the picture, Arco Arena is the biggest peice of crap in the area. The Mondavi center at UC Davis down the road is brand new and is way nicer than Arco. Yeah I know thats a theatre, but they got a plenty of money to ay for that thing. The Maloofs need to build a new damn arena already. Everyone in Sacramento, Kings fans or not, are sick of that big grey excuse for an arena.</div>

    they have like 275 consecutive sellouts, but arco is a smaller arena.. so...
     
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    ^ thank you sir! Kill all that "not loyal" GARBAGE! Arco is a small arena just like Sac is a small big city. Dumb topic anyway...i like how noone even considers the possibility of the Kings staying in SAC. Hate hate hate...
     
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    Will Artest play in Las Vegas?

    Would the aquisition of Ron Artest make the Kings more attractive to a new city? Could this aquisition be the start of a move to Las Vegas, Anaheim or KC?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GiantMidget:</div><div class="quote_post">^ thank you sir! Kill all that "not loyal" GARBAGE! Arco is a small arena just like Sac is a small big city. Dumb topic anyway...i like how noone even considers the possibility of the Kings staying in SAC. Hate hate hate...</div>

    This is the problem Arco faces, it's a small arena. Even though the Kings sellout they don't have the corporate luxury skyboxes and enough seating to compete. If the Maloofs can sell more and generate more revenue, then they can spend more on their roster. Plus it becomes harder to attract players when you don't have a top of the line facility.
     
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    With a new face in town, Maloof brothers should wait to make any move. All the true fans are obviously in Sacramento.
     

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