Let's Start Channing

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  1. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    Fry has proven he can play well when given good consistent minutes. The more he plays, the better he plays. When he starts for us he's a 16/10 player.

    Rather than wasting time with Batum starting at SF this season while Webster recovers, why not start Fry? He may be slower than most SF's, but we can play a zone and he'll present a lot of matchup problems for defenders. Also, when our interior players switch on defense he'll have a good matchup and we'll have better interior defense.
     
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    Who's Fry?
     
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    I'm not a huge fan of that. Our switching hasn't caused problems with Batum guarding bigs, but when our PG is guarding PFs or Oden's out on a PG. That wouldn't change with Frye in.

    Batum and Outlaw (when his heard's in it) seem to go a lot harder after rebounds than Channing. If anything, I'd like to see him get the backup minutes at center if Joel's out, so he can get his mind around being a rebounder, defender and paint player. But I'd really rather have Joel at 80% than Frye in extended C minutes.
     
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    Yeah, who is Fry?
     
  5. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    Nice to know you follow the team.
     
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    The joke hit the ceiling as it went over your head.
     
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    And he said "I" make a fool of myself?? :biglaugh:
     
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    We are not starting Channing, especially at small forward. And a zone defense is only effective in spurts in the NBA, you can't have a whole defensive game plan with a zone.
    If Joel can't go, Frye will get his in the backup role. He has not shown anything lately to earn the PT though.
     
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    No thanks. Ugh.

    We already have enough problem with opponents getting to the rim and getting fouled. Frye would be disasterous on the perimeter.

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    As we have seen with players like Outlaw, some players are better starters than coming off the bench abd visa-versa. Also, some players play better when given consistent playing time. Fre is one of those who play better when starting and/or getting consistent minutes. Since Nate is bungling his time off the bench and thereby hurting the team, maybe he could get smart and start him in place of a player who really isn't contributing much more then running around the floor.
     
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    Dude. Frye is just not a very good player. It's not a matter of him being bungled. It's him playing like ass.

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    BP, for the record, it's Frye...with an 'e'. :)

    So, yes, I do follow the team. :drumroll:
     
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    Frye as the starting small forward? Gah, my eyes! How about instead KP finds Chan-man a new home with some team who needs a 6'11" jump shooting power forward who doesn't play very good D?
     
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    I think we're doing just fine with Channing on the bench. With Outlaw, we NEED him every game and his contributions to win, which is why finding his role has been more of an emphasis than Channing's.

    I'd much rather have Nicolas' defense, athleticism and energy for his 10-15 mins a game.
     
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    A bigger question, maybe I missed a thread somewhere, but why did his PT drop to 0 so fast. I heard of no injury, arrest, or locker room fight. I understand starting other bench guys who prove themselves, but Frye has played like 3 minutes in the last 5 or 6 games, which was a big change in the lineup with no apparent or visible cause.

    Someone point me somewhere please. I am not complaining about Ike getting minutes, just curious... personally I like the swap. Something to do with the impending trade deadline?
     
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    Batum has been very good. I'm not sure why people here have a problem with him.
     
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    Just watch the Boston game in Boston. That was the boiling point. I think he had a stretch was he missed a jumper, fouled on the other end, turned the ball over, and looked intimidated as all hell out there.
    He was mired in a shooting slump, which is his only real strength. Otherwise, he doesn't bring much out of the backup PF spot like hard-nosed defense or rebounding.
     
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    At one point Nate said that he was going to use Ike as the backup 4, but after 1.5 games he went back to Frye. I don't understand why he would have given Diogu any sort of shot if he was going to judge him after such a short period of time.

    They mentioned on the broadcast during the Celtics game that Nate had planned on using Ike because of Boston's bulk off the bench. I wish he would use Ike because of Frye's crappiness off the bench.

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    He's better than you give him credit for.
     

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