Let's talk about Rahim's defense

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  1. DragonKid

    DragonKid JBB JustBBall Member

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    Everybody knows rahim's defense is not really outstanding. Now we will surely get SAR, it's good. But if we meet the team like Spurs, Heat, Pacers, Pistons, can SAR play defensively?

    In our taiwan basketball discussion board, many people criticize Rahim's defense. Even they say Rahim has no defense..but is that true? how can we be a defense & offense balance team?

    IMO, Rahim in nets doesn't need pay too much energy on offense, maybe he can pay more attention on defense...

    Mr.Henacy, maybe I need your opinion.. thanks
     
  2. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    I think Shareef can play post defense and help defense. He's a very fundamentally sound player in almost every area, which was why he was an allstar player, but I think it's just a question of effort. At least he'll be on a winning team and the East coast doesn't have too many great scoring power forwards except for maybe Rasheed Wallace who is on the decline, Jermaine O'neil, Chris Bosh. SAR just isn't one of those guys that has the grit to play tough defensively, but being on the nets with Jason Kidd could change that. Hope there's enough touches to go around.
     
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    Ma3oxuct Nets Preview Team

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    SAR's defense is at least as good as Carter's and no better than Karl Malone's (in his prime). SAR is not a shot blocker by any means, and physically I do not think that he can stand up to guys like Duncan. What he is capabable of is playing smart defense (pulling the chair for example). I think that idealy, SAR needs to be placed in conjunction with a shot-blocking help defender (Theo Ratliff for example). I personally believe that SAR is a better defender in the zone, however, I may be wrong as I have never had the oppurtunity to watch him play a lot.
     
  4. Henacy

    Henacy JBB The Man like Sam

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    To be honest, that is why I think Jason Collins will stay in the starting lineup believe it or not it adds more balance to the frontline if Collins stays in as a starter. Jason Collins isnt a great defender by any stretch but he is the best of the bunch other then Cliff Robinson, so I think you keep him in the starting lineup to deal with the likes of Duncan and some of the other West bigs and guys in the East like Shaq. Krstic cant cover those guys on the ball and all he is going to do is get in foul trouble, I think by bringing Krstic or Reef off the bench it gives the illusion of a deeper and more balanced frontline. And Krstic who picks up fouls quickly can stay out of foul trouble more smoothly, going against opposing teams 2nd unit guys. And he would be more productive as well.

    Our rotation should be something like this with the curent bigs that we have.....

    Starting PF: Shareef Abdur Rahim

    Reef's Main Job: Low post threat and add an offensive inside pressense; rebounding

    Starting Center: Jason Collins

    JC's Main Job: Cover the opposing teams best Power Forward or Center. And use his 6 fouls wisely.....

    Then Center: Nenad Krstic checks in with about 5 minutes remaining in the 1st for Jason Collins

    Nenad's main job: taking advantage of opponents 2nd unit centers which for alot of teams wont be as talented as Krstic....and against 2nd unit bigs who are less of a offensive threat he can stay out of foul trouble but also be a help defender and change a few shots of guards penetrating thru the lane cause he doesnt have to work as hard with on ball defense against 2nd unit Center

    Then Cliff Robinson comes in for Reef with about 3:00 minutes remaining in the first....

    Cliff's Main Job: On ball defense in the 2nd unit...and also make that 3pter to create room down for Ksrtic...who can be a strong finisher in the post but needs someone to open up the post for him or he struggles to finish. Cliff making the three brings athletic 2nd unit defenders out of the lane...and Krstic can work one on one against 2nd unit Centers.

    Iam not saying that this is the way we should finish games but definetely start games e4arly with this rotation...its the most balanced in my opinion....you dont throw your 5 best players on the court at once to start the game and leave your bench weak...

    Starting 5

    Kidd
    VC
    Jefferson
    Reef
    Collins

    but we still finsh games with a lineup of....

    Kidd
    VC
    Jefferson
    Reef
    Krstic

    ....cause at the end of the game is when you want your 5 best players all on the floor and not in foul trouble.
     
  5. XSV

    XSV JBB The Virve Dynasty

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    I like your balance with those lineups...but Collins is such a liability on offense to be starting, he can't hit those open midrangers like Krstic can. In the playoffs, Krstic hit so many open jumpers b/c Shaq wouldn't guard him out there, but now with a PF that actually demands defensive attention, he'll get those jumpers on a nightly basis. Either way we still only have a 4 bigman rotation, and we'll need one more to complete our roster in case of injuries. Personally I dislike Collins' game and I'd want to see him being the fifth man in that rotation to fill in incase of injuries. We should try and get someone to back up Krstic so Robinson can back up Reef.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Henacy:</div><div class="quote_post">Starting 5

    Kidd
    VC
    Jefferson
    Reef
    Collins

    but we still finsh games with a lineup of....

    Kidd
    VC
    Jefferson
    Reef
    Krstic

    ....cause at the end of the game is when you want your 5 best players all on the floor and not in foul trouble.</div>

    Good rotation. Jason Collins is the best defender of them, but having him in early instead of late in the game will take our troubles away, as we don't have to worry about him being soft because of foul trouble. He averages around 6.04 PF/48 min., so having Krstic when it matters most is vital.
     
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    I personally like Krstic to be our starting center for next season. because as we have seen last season. Krstic improved alot when he was inserted as the starting center. if we move him back to the bench it might hamper his further development.

    Collins can Play "D" but his offensive game is almost non existence

    i think the best thing we should do is interchange Krstic and Collins in the starting center position depending on the team that were up against. if were against teams like detroit,miami or spurs who plays well in the paint we need Collins to man the post.
     
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    Those rotations were pretty solid Henacy and I think that should be how it is. We will have Krystic and his great scoring off the bench. Not to mention another good offensive player in Cliff coming off the bench as well.
     
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    i ya i agree to henacys lineup.... but we need to play krstic big mins so he gets better if he goes to the bench and then antoine wright will be the 2nd player of the bench
     
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    well, all i know is that he's a pretty good rebounder.
     
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    Shareef is not a good defender, but he's not a bad defender either. He's not much of a shot blocker or help defender anymore, but he's decent, and he will rotate and help.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Those rotations were pretty solid Henacy and I think that should be how it is. We will have Krystic and his great scoring off the bench. Not to mention another good offensive player in Cliff coming off the bench as well.</div>
    Cliff would be more useful defensively as opposed to offensively. Offensively, his main thing will be hitting the spot up jumpers.
     
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    in my oppinion this will be a stacked team. j-kidd, jefferson, reef, and vc, i think they just need a better center.
     
  13. XSV

    XSV JBB The Virve Dynasty

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    Krstic is a good enough center if you watched him late last season. We already have enough scoring power on this team, but what we do need is role players (shot blocker, banger, shooter, defensive player, etc.)
     

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