Ha! Well that will be something good to look for out of this fiasco. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/krautham...iberalism-will-be-set-back-a-full-generation/ Yesterday I join a group on yahoo of retired employees, people like myself exchange info on how to navigate this healthcare insurance mess and other important issues There are 130, 000 of us and no one has been able to get a damn thing to work. No one can buy insurance like we had, hell so far no one can buy any period. One big bunch of pissed off people. We all thought we had these issues taken care of by putting in the time to qualify for retirement. Ha! Poof! If the total liberal agenda is smashed, it may all be worth the price. I think we will find a way through this no thanks or help from Obama, but we will pickup a few allies for the next election.
Re: Liberalism " set back a full generation" Hrauthammer Group one believes, "The government is monitoring our electronic communications! That's an invasion of privacy!" Group two believes, "Let's put all our personal and health care information into a giant database run by a government bureaucracy, they guarantee they won't invade our privacy!" The size of the Venn Diagram overlap between these two groups is mind-boggling.
Re: Liberalism " set back a full generation" Hrauthammer Mind-boggling to me for sure! Ah hell that doesn't even come close to saying it! Words do not cover this sort of deep shit.
Re: Liberalism " set back a full generation" Hrauthammer Krauthammer (if you can't spell your hero's name, at least get the first letter right) is the scummiest media personality in the U.S. He was the first columnist to advocate torture, and the only one until years later, a couple of scared ones followed him. His face is so scarred and ugly that Fox never shows him in profile, since the portrait side is bad enough. He's a truly evil character. One could more verifiably say (since this is how it happened last time) that if Republicans put all their eggs (credibility) into the shutdown basket, which they did and then fell on their faces, the party will be set back for one to two elections.
Re: Liberalism " set back a full generation" Hrauthammer man, I wont even bother with you hateful slurs. I read a book on the guy and found it fantastic to learn all he has overcome to get where he is. Really, man, there are tons of people to hate on, this is not one. You could take the combined IQ of CNN and not even tickle where this guy is. Mind you, I am not being a fanboi, rather a solid respect for the man
Re: Liberalism " set back a full generation" Hrauthammer Well looky looky, the jilpoke looks down on Krauthammer.
He's the biggest torture advocate in the media (not hard, since there are so few). He has kept quiet about that issue the last few years, to keep his career going.
someone purposely misstating what someone said to make it sound like their beliefs are backed up?! WHA!??! repped.
I find it terribly amusing that had the Republicans just rode out the healthcare bill, and not freaked out about it and shut down the government the tides of power would be DRAMATICALLY different right now. The GOP would definitely be poised to take senate seats.
So let's get this straight. ObamaCare proving to be a disaster. Republicans fought it tooth and nail because it's a disaster. Even shut the government down to save millions their insurance policies. And who's the losers? The interesting question is actually, "Why?"
Democrats have finally learned a lesson, ironically from the Republicans. Give them just enough rope to hang themselves.
The Obamacare web site is proving to be a disaster, which is fixable. Obamacare itself is still under review.
People dislike being lied to. The number of people that realize they have been lied to is growing daily.
One of my best friends just had her insurance cancelled. Her new policy is over $500 a month. She's over 50, not the youth types ObamaCare is to screw over to bring down everyone else's cost - in theory. Another is comptroller at a small company. Their insurance carrier is allowing them early sign up for 2014, but in January the cost is doubling. Yep, it's getting reviewed. The reviews are "it stinks."
It is getting reviewed, a whole lot of people are getting jolted awake now. Perhaps I won't be the lone guy writing to my Congressman or Senator with this stuff. Samples; ********************* Well here it is nearly October and I have no idea what my health insurance coverage will be or how much it will cost for me and my wife. I have had isurance for 52 years provided for us by the company that I worked with for nearly 40 years. When Barrack Obama said, "if you like your health care you can keep it!" I cringed! I knew damn well that if the government provided an out, the company would drop us. I have been inform about an exchange that will guide me through the process next month. This is just wonderful, work for 40 years to get life time healthcare and shazam all gone. We will have the same dang healthcare chit as everyone else has even if they didn't do squat. Now I know both of my Senators voted to bring me this blessing, but damn, you would think I could know something about it before it is upon me. Just how the hell did you fellas find this plan to be so wounderful and garner your vote? I know nothing good about it, please tell me why I should be pleased you helped me obtain this ACA, corner stone of the great Barrack Obama? *********************************************** How can it be when you voted for this ACA that you didn't know that people covered by their employer or former employer in the case of retirees, would be dropped by the employer? The law contains a Tax on the employers for each person that they would continue to cover. Why was this tax implemented? It can not be to obtain revenue to cover other people. If it was, that was very dumb as well as totally unfair to the employers as well as the employees and retirees. It sure looks to me like the tax was intended to encourage employers to drop retirees and spouses to force more people into the exchanges. You fellas really deserve a just reward for this plan. Barrack Obama deserves his too for telling us at least 50 times that "If you like your current healthcare You can Keep it!" A Complete lie. *************************************************************** Canned Respone recieve from Peter De My response to him; Congressman, I just received a response from your office and it appears you did not even read my email that I sent to you. It appears to be a canned response. One thing in the response is especially irritating, about how the affordable care act does not effect me. I will remember you are clueless, I view the tax on employers for each person cover by health coverage as being designed to intentionally cause employers to drop people they have covered, like employees, spouses, and retirees. It was successfully, my coverage has been terminated and you sir are responsible in my view.
