Lillard: What's the Solution?

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Fez Hammersticks

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The defensive plan from Denver and GS has been designed to stop Lillard - and it worked. It also exposed Dame as he is unable to adjust in any meaningful way. Steph has dominated this matchup quite handedly.

A third scorer?

Play him off the ball more?
 
The biggest takeaway from this is he quit on the team during the second half of this game.

The biggest stage of his basketball career and he absolutely shit the bed.
 
Fez Forthright said:
The biggest takeaway from this is he quit on the team during the second half of this game.

The biggest stage of his baseball career and he absolutely shit the bed.
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I missed the baseball game... was it really as bad as his basketball play? :(
 
Y'all saying dame quit? Nah, hes just looking ag who has to go. Which is about half the roster and the head coach.
 
Realize this will always happen if he is your #1 option. Sad reality and I hate to admit it. But you all know it's true. His style of play can easily be schemed against by a good defense.
 
When Dame dribbles up the court and Leonard (or Kanter) comes up to set the high pick and roll, GS traps or blitzes Dame.

To this, STOP SETTING THE FUCKING HIGH PICK!

You have to mix it up! But EVERY SINGLE TIME the high pick is set! WTF?

Try a screen with the forwards, with CJ. Try setting picks down low or out on a wing, letting Dame take his man one on one and keeping an eye out on rolling players away from the ball.

The predictability is what is frustrating! It becomes a coaching problem! Just listening now to Stotts (post game interview).....bad answers. He doesn’t have answers.
 
Fez Forthright said:
The defensive plan from Denver and GS has been designed to stop Lillard - and it worked. It also exposed Dame as he is unable to adjust in any meaningful way. Steph has dominated this matchup quite handedly.

A third scorer?

Play him off the ball more?
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I think we need an offensively dominant center who can pass in the high post... hopefully by February next season we’ve got one playing for us. Get it done Olshey!
 
We need either a third ball handler capable of making/creating shots, or a PF who can score on any big.

That’s the only two things that can beat this trap rn.
 
SportsAndWhine said:
I think we need an offensively dominant center who can pass in the high post... hopefully by February next season we’ve got one playing for us. Get it done Olshey!
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Nurkic?
 
Get a real PG and move Dame to SG. He's got limited handles in traffic. Leaves his feet to often with no plan and nobody to throw it to other than the other team. Let them double our SG and have our pg drive and score or drive and dish.
 
We need more of a motion offense than the pick and roll centric offense we are currently running. Additionally, getting Dame off the ball some to run off pin downs and double screens would be nice. We finally did it in the 4th qrtr and he probably got the cleanest look he got all night. He still missed the 3 but it was a shot you want him taking.
 
RonBrewer said:
Get a real PG and move Dame to SG. He's got limited handles in traffic. Leaves his feet to often with no plan and nobody to throw it to other than the other team. Let them double our SG and have our pg drive and score or drive and dish.
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It would be interesting if we maybe dealt Turner, Moe, Simons, and our draft pick to New Orleans for Jrue Holiday, then trade CJ for an all-star level forward like Butler in a s&t?

Holiday
Dame
Butler
Collins
Nurk

That’s a lot of defense and very capable offense.
 
Don't walk the ball up the court.

When they double team pass the ball quick, someone is open.

If Dame is tired sub him out more, our bench has played great.

It's middle school basketball, but Dame seems to try and outsmart the double team as though he thinks the team can't win without him scoring.

Compare that to Curry, he passes quick and moves without the ball then gets it back for a wide open three.

Stop holding the ball and waiting for the defense to setup.

Stop driving into double teams.

Stop jumping with no idea of where to pass.

Once the rest of the team penalizes GS it will open things up for Dame.

Until he makes teams pay for trapping by passing out of it he will only see more of it.
 
When a defense is selling out to stop one player using doubles, triples, traps, jumping screens, and hedging to that players side of the floor, the only way to defeat that defense is for the other players to punish it by scoring consistently. CJ can't do it; Mo and Aminu can't do it'; Kanter, Meyers, and Zach can't do it. Hood made a good stab at it but he can't do it

Portland needs more talent and they have to recognize something critical: teams get a two-fer for using that defense on Dame: one is that they take out the best and most efficient scorer Portland has; the bonus is they shut down the only guy who can consistently run the Blazer offense, such as it is

Portland is vulnerable when a 6'2 guard is their #1 scorer and #1 playmaker/facilitator. Dame is by far the best player, but he has limitations and Portland's reliance on him leaves them a shipwreck when a good defensive team takes Dame out of the flow

what Portland needs is another player, preferably a wing, as talented as Dame so an opponent can't sell out to stop Dame. CJ isn't close to being that player, and of course, getting a player like that is a real long shot

The Warriors couldn't use that defense if Portland had Kawhi or Paul George to pair with Dame. But those ships have sailed, if they were ever even close to port
 
There is no solution. Warriors are better than the Blazers and Steph is better than Lillard. Ah they also have a better coach and GM.
 
Fez Forthright said:
The defensive plan from Denver and GS has been designed to stop Lillard - and it worked. It also exposed Dame as he is unable to adjust in any meaningful way. Steph has dominated this matchup quite handedly.

A third scorer?

Play him off the ball more?
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Dame needs to do two things.
1. Trust his team mates more.
(a) No hero drives trying to beat 4 defenders. In general when Dame attacks the rim it's his most efficient shot. But when he overdoes it and goes out of control, head down, 1 on 4, it's a terrible play resulting in fast breaks the other way.
(b) When trapped get rid of the ball sooner and let his team mates go 4 on 3. If they can't punish the defense he needs different team mates.
2. Stop making careless passes and overly risky passes. TAKE CARE of the ball.

Generally Dame is high BBIQ. But in these two areas he has been low BBIQ throughout his career.
 
MightyMouseOps1 said:
We need more of a motion offense than the pick and roll centric offense we are currently running. Additionally, getting Dame off the ball some to run off pin downs and double screens would be nice. We finally did it in the 4th qrtr and he probably got the cleanest look he got all night. He still missed the 3 but it was a shot you want him taking.
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Exactly
 
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