Lopez signed, what to expect

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  1. Further

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    I'm more of a fan of RoLo than a lot of people here. I see a player who has been improving at both ends of the court. And at only 25 years old, I expect him to continue. At 25, Przybilla could hardly stay in the NBA, but he kept improving. Both these players arent the most jumpy athletic players, but they are tough, smart players. Those types, especially on defense, improve for longer.

    I would not be at all surprised to see RoLo end next season with a PER around 20-22. Huge pickup and we will look back on this signing as a much more important gain than most people think at the moment.

    My hope is that on a new team, with Aldridge already not being the best rebounder, Lopez gets better in this area fast. This is going to be the one big issue I have with him because as much as I want to think it's a positioning thing, this is one of the more consistent stats for players year over year. Hopefully all the other players kick in and also T-Rob can be a legit rebounder if he sees enough court time.

    Overall, very very happy we got Lopez and not some zero like Zaza, or a overhyped player like Asik. Go Blazers!
     
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    I'm a fan of Sideshow Bob, and was hoping we'd go after him last year after missing out on Hibbert. So I like your post, and hope you're right about RoLo.
     
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    He wasnt my first thought or choice but the more I look it the more I see a nice mix of experience with room to grow and at a great price for starting center. I honestly dont care about stats as long as he fits into what we need. Im guessing since he went to Stanford he at least has some smarts and that kind of player works well in a role player. I have high hopes for him to work well with our team.
     
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    Great post and I find it peculiar that every center that played beside Aldridge had way better rebounding %. I suspect he jumps an additional 3-4 rebounds per game. Just playing next to Aldridge.
     
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    I think Lopez will do fine.

    The problem: people undervalue what Hickson did on the boards. I'm afraid the loss of rebounding will largely off-set the gain on defense.
     
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    But good defense leads to better offense. If hickson was just slightly worse on rebounding, yet better on defense; I think we value him more.
     
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    Dont know about 3-4, hope you are right. I think 2 is pretty realistic. JJ jumped 3 rebound per 36 when playing with LMA. I do expect an increase from Lopez, but how much?
     
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    The team actually had a better rebound % when Hickson wasn't on the floor, though.
     
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    The book on him is he is a defensive presence with few offensive skills, slow footed but can rebound and should bring some toughness to the defense.

    I think the big question is will he continue to develop. Add more to his offensive game and will his defense translate into good team defense (as I think NO was one of the few teams with a worst defense than the Blazers).

    Lopez could be one of those one hit wonders who had a good year (relative) on a bad team or a big man who is starting to figure things out. My concern and why I fall more on the side that he will be average at best is because NO doesn't seem to value him much. If NO thought he was a player on the rise I think they would have found another way to create cap space. Hopefully Olshey sees something in him that NO doesn't.
     
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    Sometimes big rebounders don't necessarily help the team rebound. I saw somewhere that actually his team rebounded a lot better when RoLo was on the court than not, and the writer speculated that he must be really good at boxing out his guy, allowing his teammate to get the rebound.

    Remember when the Blazers habitually led the league in rebounding? Our leading rebounder was Buck, at about 8 a game.

    Fortunately some of our guards are very good rebounders for their position (especially Will Barton and CJ).
     
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    I posted it about Hickson a few posts ago, but here are the actual ON/OFF numbers for Hickson last season.

    ON
    OFF
    DIFF

    Offensive Rebounding
    28.9%
    27.0%
    +1.9%
    Defensive Rebounding
    70.1%
    73.2%
    -3.1%
    Total Rebounding
    49.5%
    50.1%
    -0.6%

    The stats say that the Blazers were a better rebounding team without Hickson on the court. :dunno:
     
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    Actually, the Blazers were flat-out a better team w/out Hickson on the court, period, last season.

    Stat
    ON Court
    OFF Court
    Net
    Minutes
    2322
    1648
    58%
    Offense: Pts per 100 Poss.
    105.8
    107.3
    -1.5
    Defense: Pts per 100 Poss.
    110.9
    109.5
    +1.5
    Net Points per 100 Possessions
    -5.1
    -2.1
    -3.0

    http://www.82games.com/1213/12POR15.HTM#onoff
     
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    LMA's ON/OFF

    Stat
    ON Court
    OFF Court
    Net
    Minutes
    2790
    1180
    70%
    Offense: Pts per 100 Poss.
    108.2
    102.4
    +5.8
    Defense: Pts per 100 Poss.
    109.3
    112.7
    -3.4
    Net Points per 100 Possessions
    -1.1
    -10.3
    +9.2
     
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    Lopez Rebounding ON/OFF for NO last year

    Stat
    ON
    OFF
    DIFF

    Offensive Rebounding
    33.3%
    30.6%
    +2.7%
    Defensive Rebounding
    73.6%
    69.2%
    +4.3%
    Total Rebounding
    53.4%
    49.9%
    +3.5%
     
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    I've banged the drum a lot for Robin this offseason, and will continue here. Im excited about the pickup. Primarily because he is still really young. I like that it isn't a desperation type of move. Ok, here's more drum banging.
    New Orleans was 8th in the league in defensive rebounding. 74.4%. 6th in offensive rebounding at 29.2%. Out of everyone who played over 500 minutes for them, Robinhad the best offensive rebounding percentage at 12.4. I think he was 15th in the league. On defense, it's a different story. Aminu, Davis, Smith and Anderson all had better DRB%. Henry, Thomas and Vasquez were all about the same. What it shows is that they were a good defensive rebounding team. And clearly, they crashed the boards, since their SF was their top defensive rebounder, adn heir PG was as good as their C. So a whole team of good rebounders, basically. You don't, then, expect much drop off from group A to B to C, etc. Yet when Robin was off the court, there was a 7% difference in TRB%. Second only to Aminu's 9.3%. Davis and Vasquez were comparable, a +2.5-3.0 ish. Who knows. Could be me looking at stats that I want to see, and letting the stats present something incorrect, because I want it to be correct, but I started liking him more after looking at his stats, not liking him first.


    All that being said, I've always found a team's overall scheme to play a big role in things like rebounding percentage. Very often, we see one guy on a team act as your designated rebounder. We saw it with Hickson. Sure, he would battle for rebounds, and I appreciate that. But he was also the designated guy who would "collect" the rebound on a missed FT, when the opponent put no pressure on the rebound. On a long shot attempt, when the opponent would not even attempt to crash the boards, usually it was his rebound, and other guys would head back up the floor. Some teams do it, some don't. A lot of teams crash the boards. But it seems often when you watch a game, most teams have that designated ok, you go get it guy. And when he's off the floor, someone else fills that role very easily. WHich I imagine could be why we saw on/off numbers like we did with JJ.
     
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    The important thing is: I hate this "RoLo" nickname, almost as much as "MyLe".

    I'm going with "Rob Lo" and "Nards". ;)
     
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    Let's just hope he doesn't make home videos. The Oden saga was bad enough.
     
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    Reppd and I couldn't agree more
     
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    I hate the nickname which implies he's just a sideshow.

    No one has said it, so I will: Lopez has missed a fourth of his games, every season except the last one. Last season may have been a Przybilla-like temporary peak of his injury-filled career.
     
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