Lottery Luck Breakdown since 94

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  1. N4S

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">1994
    1. Glenn Robinson, Milwaukee (No. 2, tied)
    2. Jason Kidd, Dallas (No. 1)
    3. Grant Hill, Detroit (No. 2, tied)
    4. Donyell Marshall, Minnesota (No. 4)

    1995
    1. Joe Smith, G-State (No. 5)
    2. Antonio McDyess, LAC (No. 1)
    3. Jerry Stackhouse, Philly (No. 4)
    4. Rasheed Wallace, Washington (No. 2, tied)

    1996
    1. Allen Iverson, Philly (No. 2)
    2. Marcus Camby, Toronto (No. 3)
    3. Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Vancouver (No. 1)
    4. Stephon Marbury, Milwaukee (No. 4)

    1997
    1. Tim Duncan, San Antonio (No. 3)
    2. Keith Van Horn, Philly (No. 5)
    3. Chauncey Billups, Boston (No. 2)
    4. Antonio Daniels, Vancouver (No. 1)

    1998
    1. Michael Olowokandi, LAC (No. 3)
    2. Mike Bibby, Vancouver (No. 5)
    3. Raef LaFrentz, Denver (No. 1)
    4. Antawn Jamison, Toronto (No. 2)

    1999
    1. Elton Brand, Chicago (No. 3)
    2. Steve Francis, Vancouver (No. 1)
    3. Baron Davis, Charlotte (No. 13)
    4. Lamar Odom, LAC (No. 4)

    2000
    1. Kenyon Martin, New Jersey (No. 7)
    2. Stromile Swift, Vancouver (No. 4)
    3. Darius Miles, LAC (No. 1)
    4. Marcus Fizer, Chicago (No. 2)

    2001
    1. Kwame Brown, Washington (No. 3)
    2. Tyson Chandler, LAC (No. 8)
    3. Pau Gasol, Atlanta (No. 5)
    4. Eddy Curry, Chicago (No. 1)
    5. Jason Richardson, G-State (No. 2)

    2002
    1. Yao Ming, Houston (No. 5)
    2. Jay Williams, Chicago (No. 1, tied)
    3. Mike Dunleavy, G-State (No. 1, tied)
    4. Drew Gooden, Memphis (No. 2)

    2003
    1. LeBron James, Cleveland (No. 1, tied)
    2. Darko Milicic, Detroit (thru Memphis, No. 6)
    3. Carmelo Anthony, Denver (No. 1, tied)
    4. Chris Bosh, Toronto (No. 3)

    2004
    1. Dwight Howard, Orlando (No. 1)
    2. Emeka Okafor, Bobcats (expansion)
    3. Ben Gordon, Chicago (No. 2)
    4. Shaun Livingston, LAC (No. 3)

    2005
    1. Andrew Bogut, Milwaukee (No. 6)
    2. Marvin Williams, Atlanta (No. 1)
    3. Deron Williams, Utah (No. 4)
    4. Chris Paul, New Orleans (No. 2, tied)
    5. Raymond Felton, Bobcats (No. 2, tied)

    2006
    1. Andrea Bargnani, Toronto (No. 5)
    2. LaMarcus Aldridge, Chicago (via NY, No. 2)
    3. Adam Morrison, Charlotte (No. 3)
    4. Ty Thomas, Portland (No. 1)</div>

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    The worst team has only received the number 1 pick twice in the last 13 years.
     
  2. thedude9990

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    and only once has a team with two digits (11,10 etc) made top 4
     
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    Lotsa #2 pick busts in there. Other than Jason Kidd no one else has been a franchise player as you'd expect a #2 pick to be(Stevie Franchise..pun intended).
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">thedude9990 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">and only once has a team with two digits (11,10 etc) made top 4</div>

    If they extended it to 93, that would also include the Magic, who had the best record of all lottery teams and lowest amount of ping pong balls and still managed getting the top pick.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">dallasdude Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Lotsa #2 pick busts in there. Other than Jason Kidd no one else has been a franchise player as you'd expect a #2 pick to be(Stevie Franchise..pun intended).</div>

    well mcydess could have been if he wasn't injuried all the time, camby is a very good center i wouldnt call him a bust, van horn was a very good player his first four years, bibby had his moments, and chandler is still emerging and hes only 24, darko hasnt been diong anytihng but hes only 22, and bibby and francis had there years, so there not really busts
     
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    Ah, camby, what could of been. All the 3 picks, have gone on to become or will be or are right now, great players. Gasol, Billups, Gordon, Deron Williams, Carmelo, Hill, Gasol and Baron Davis.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">All the 3 picks, have gone on to become or will be or are right now, great players.</div>

    Are'nt you forgetting Darius Miles and Mike Dunleavy?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Ford_11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> All the 3 picks, have gone on to become or will be or are right now, great players. </div>

    Are'nt you forgetting Darius Miles and Mike Dunleavy?
     
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    ^I didnt forget them, I was jst to lazy to type them in, plus i assumed u got my point, by what i ment by the 3 picks.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Ford_11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">^I didnt forget them, I was jst to lazy to type them in, plus i assumed u got my point, by what i ment by the 3 picks.</div>

    am i missing something, dunlevy and miles great?
     
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    2000 draft was the worst draft ever LOL!!!
     
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    someone explain to me how michael olowakandi is a number 1 pick. please
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">thedude9990 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">and only once has a team with two digits (11,10 etc) made top 4</div>
    No double digit team could get the 4th spot anyway (4 through 9 actually) as the lottery only picks the top 3, then the rest are in inverse order of rank. So you mean "top 3".

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">If they extended it to 93, that would also include the Magic, who had the best record of all lottery teams and lowest amount of ping pong balls and still managed getting the top pick</div>
    This chart should really only show from 1995 which was the first year of the modern draft lottery, in '93 the odds were very different, the Magic (No. 11) had a 1/66 chance, today the last place team (which is now No. 14 because of expansion) has a 1/200 chance.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">someone explain to me how michael olowakandi is a number 1 pick. please</div>
    Two words, The Clippers. Olowakandi was kind of a last minute decision, most people figured Bibby was the obvious #1 because the Clippers needed a PG, but they also needed size and late in the draft process Olowakandi was getting a lot of hype, maybe from workouts, maybe from his agent, I don't know. But between his size and how quickly he developed in college after not having much experience, the hype was about how good he was now with limited knowledge about basketball, imagine how good he will be once an NBA team can train him correctly.

    Even at that time most teams didn't have much of a grasp on the draft, a lot of teams were trading out of the draft, experience was more important those days than young talent. Even though Garnett and Kobe were in the league, a lot of teams still weren't jumping at High School players, Orlando and Houston passed up Al Harrington and Rashard Lewis 3 times! At the time of that draft, Jamison was actually considered a better player than Vince Carter (Golden State had to trade Carter & cash for Jamison) and Robert "Tractor" Traylor was considered a can't-miss big man (which is why you can't really blame Milwaukee for trading Dirk Nowitzki and Pat Garrity for him).

    N4S, nice work, it's nice to see the 4th worst team has only gotten in the top 3 three times. If the current No. 4 (Atlanta) stays out of the top 3 the Suns get the pick [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">michiganave17 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">2000 draft was the worst draft ever LOL!!!</div>
    Is this sarcasm? Kenyon Martin, Michael Redd, Jamaal Magloire, Quentin Richardson, Jamal Crawford, Mike Miller, Desmond Mason and probably some more I'm forgetting. This class wasn't the worst ever. Granted, it wasn't as strong as it was hyped up to be, but it definitely can't be considered the worst.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">MrJ Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Is this sarcasm? Kenyon Martin, Michael Redd, Jamaal Magloire, Quentin Richardson, Jamal Crawford, Mike Miller, Desmond Mason and probably some more I'm forgetting. This class wasn't the worst ever. Granted, it wasn't as strong as it was hyped up to be, but it definitely can't be considered the worst.</div>
    I think he mainly meant the top few picks of that draft as that is what we see above. Of the above groupings, 2000 is the only one without an All-Star in sight. I think both the top of the draft and that draft as a whole have to be considered one of the weakest drafts in recent history, Redd (43rd pick) is really the only player in that draft who would be considered an All-Star player currently.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">scorbutic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I think he mainly meant the top few picks of that draft as that is what we see above. Of the above groupings, 2000 is the only one without an All-Star in sight. I think both the top of the draft and that draft as a whole have to be considered one of the weakest drafts in recent history, Redd (43rd pick) is really the only player in that draft who would be considered an All-Star player currently.</div>

    scorbutic AINT NO BODY TALKIN TO YOU DAWG DIS BETWEEN DEM 2 DONT BE GETTIN ALL UP IN DEY BUIZNEZZZ DAWG
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">elevate Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">scorbutic AINT NO BODY TALKIN TO YOU DAWG DIS BETWEEN DEM 2 DONT BE GETTIN ALL UP IN DEY BUIZNEZZZ DAWG</div>

    Man are you 7 years old? Stop all of the caps and write so people can understand you. Are you trying to be funny?

    You write like a white kid trying to sound black. If your black white asian or hispanic your offending the city of chicago.

    Im born and raised chicago, south side wild hundreds.

    Rep your self a little better.
     
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    boy u aint no south sida please dawg do u rep dat way? i hold my boyz down u hold yo momz down and yo teacha down son witch yo correct gramma and wat not son and u luky i don fogot da capslock and i to lazy to go back and make dis all caps playa hata
     

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