Lue and Yao, No chemistry?

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  1. chineseafro

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    Tmac and Yao have already showed that they can play together, they find each other when theyre open and play unselfish basketball. Jim Jackson and Yao understand each other, Yao kicks it out to JJ when hes open on the perimeter. Charlie Ward and Yao have a similar relationship, and Mo Taylor realizes that if he passes up a shot he can potentially give Yao an even better shot, and in the end it works to his advantage. Lue however passed Yao up dozens of times in one game with the Atlanta Hawks. I dont remember him making an inbound pass to Yao through the entire game. The only haunting memory I have of that game is Yao deep into the paint calling for the ball and Lue pulling it out and taking the shot himself. He should know by now, when Yao is close to the basket its nearly automatic. What a shame.
     
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    Lue and Yao play two VERY different games. Lue pushes the ball, Yao, is a slow, post up player. Lue hasn't established a 3 ball, Ward, however, has been able to make 35% of his 3's. Lue should be in whenever Taylor/Padgett, Bowen/JJ, and T-mac/Nachbar are in the game. Lue is quick, too quick to pass to Yao. It's like Jason Kidd playing with Shaq. Never, ever would work. One likes pushing the ball, running fast breaks, Shaq won't run the court, nor will he ever be on a fast break. I think if Lue slows the game down, that lessens the effect he has on the game. The more he pushes the ball, the greater chance we have at a bucket, but also, the greater chance of a Turn-over. Next year, I think the Bobcats should pick Lue up, since he will be an FA... i think. He would suit them better than Knight IMO. Ward should be exiled to the bench after his costly mistake against the Hawks. I think we should be looking for a better, younger, more athletic point guard. Somebody like Damon Jones, Antonio Daniels, Jamaal Tinsley, even Brent Barry and Derek Fisher, for their 3 point threat. Troy Hudson also, would've been better than the 2 we have here, though he was asking for a good chunk of money. I have no problem with McGrady being the play-maker, as long as we have solid role players that CAN HIT THE OPEN SHOT. Just my 2 cents.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting chineseafro:</div><div class="quote_post">Tmac and Yao have already showed that they can play together, they find each other when theyre open and play unselfish basketball. Jim Jackson and Yao understand each other, Yao kicks it out to JJ when hes open on the perimeter. Charlie Ward and Yao have a similar relationship, and Mo Taylor realizes that if he passes up a shot he can potentially give Yao an even better shot, and in the end it works to his advantage. Lue however passed Yao up dozens of times in one game with the Atlanta Hawks. I dont remember him making an inbound pass to Yao through the entire game. The only haunting memory I have of that game is Yao deep into the paint calling for the ball and Lue pulling it out and taking the shot himself. He should know by now, when Yao is close to the basket its nearly automatic. What a shame.</div>

    I havent seen the proof that T amc and yao can find eachother it seems like it is only yao finding t mac on the perimeter. Second of all mo taylor still isnt passing up on shots[consistantly] hes just missing them and turning the ball over. The full chemistry is impossible untill the return of sura cuz hes gonna start so whatever ward and lue are doin now wont matter. They ll have chemistry problems untill they can get used to the new faces in new places and the lack of great play at the point[ loss of francis] guard but sura is still an improvemany on what they have goin now.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting magnomonkey:</div><div class="quote_post">Lue and Yao play two VERY different games. Lue pushes the ball, Yao, is a slow, post up player. Lue hasn't established a 3 ball, Ward, however, has been able to make 35% of his 3's. Lue should be in whenever Taylor/Padgett, Bowen/JJ, and T-mac/Nachbar are in the game. Lue is quick, too quick to pass to Yao. It's like Jason Kidd playing with Shaq. Never, ever would work. One likes pushing the ball, running fast breaks, Shaq won't run the court, nor will he ever be on a fast break. I think if Lue slows the game down, that lessens the effect he has on the game. The more he pushes the ball, the greater chance we have at a bucket, but also, the greater chance of a Turn-over. Next year, I think the Bobcats should pick Lue up, since he will be an FA... i think. He would suit them better than Knight IMO. Ward should be exiled to the bench after his costly mistake against the Hawks. I think we should be looking for a better, younger, more athletic point guard. Somebody like Damon Jones, Antonio Daniels, Jamaal Tinsley, even Brent Barry and Derek Fisher, for their 3 point threat. Troy Hudson also, would've been better than the 2 we have here, though he was asking for a good chunk of money. I have no problem with McGrady being the play-maker, as long as we have solid role players that CAN HIT THE OPEN SHOT. Just my 2 cents.</div>
    but lue isnt good enough as a player that he can afford to drop his strength [ speed] he simply isnt a good fit in houston
     
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    but i do agree fisher would have been a much better move cuz hes more fisical and much stonger than lue and he not dependant on the fast break to produce results.
     
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    Alright Alright, lets not talk about picking who up or trading for who just yet. Will still got Bob Sura recovering from the injury and plus would trading or signing free agents really do wonders for our chemistry? That would take even more time for the Rockets to develop it, which would just hurt us in the long run. They should just play this out as it is and then see if the record improves or not, or if the players seem to be playing more efficiently and playing as a team. Hopefully, our chemistry will improve with each game and can really become a threat by the end of the season or next year. Plus, how will we get all those players anyway? We don't have that much of a cap space after signing T-mac and alot of our positions we need aside from the point.
     
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    In my opinion, Lue has played the worst of all the Rockets regulars. Yeah, Ward had a bunch of stupid turnovers in the last game, but he seems much more comfortable playing in Van Gundy's system than Lue.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AznxBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">Alright Alright, lets not talk about picking who up or trading for who just yet. Will still got Bob Sura recovering from the injury and plus would trading or signing free agents really do wonders for our chemistry? That would take even more time for the Rockets to develop it, which would just hurt us in the long run. They should just play this out as it is and then see if the record improves or not, or if the players seem to be playing more efficiently and playing as a team. Hopefully, our chemistry will improve with each game and can really become a threat by the end of the season or next year. Plus, how will we get all those players anyway? We don't have that much of a cap space after signing T-mac and alot of our positions we need aside from the point.</div>
    im sayin that instead of sighning sura or camby at the beggining of the year we should have gone after an effecient pg like fisher cuz not only is he a better fit in houston but he also has playoff experiance unlike sura.Plus id rather but forth the money to sign a really good pg then other other position bcuz while t mac is a great scorer he wont consitantly pass up the shot ot dish to yao. If yao is goin to be a major threat he needs the play of a legitamte point guard.
     
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    I don't think going after Fisher, especially after he was off the market for $37 million. There is no way that we would have spent that kind of money on Fisher for six years. Instead, we were able to get Ward and Sura, two serviceable veterans who could have contributed more than Fisher could. I do not regret us not getting Fisher or Mike James during the summer.
     
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    I think Lue will be the odd man out once Sura returns...Ward is the better shooter and defender, and he also looks to pass more...Lue's size is a liability...Yes we have point guard problems but its important to remember that our starting PG (in all likelihood) is injured, and we are going with a tandem of our backup and 3rd string PGs...
     
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    I haven't seen Lue play since he left the Lakers, but he was awful in the last game between Houston and Los Angeles. On one of the final plays that could have given the Rockets a chance for winning, he threw the ball straight out of bounds.

    Given that Yao was the nearest player in the vicinity, I'm assuming he was trying to pass the rock to him, but he was way off.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting sartre2025:</div><div class="quote_post">I haven't seen Lue play since he left the Lakers, but he was awful in the last game between Houston and Los Angeles. On one of the final plays that could have given the Rockets a chance for winning, he threw the ball straight out of bounds.

    Given that Yao was the nearest player in the vicinity, I'm assuming he was trying to pass the rock to him, but he was way off.</div>

    But what made that play so retarded was that we were down by 3 and there was less than 10 seconds left on the game clock. We needed a 3-pointer, but he tried to pass it inside.
     

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