Politics Manafort goes on trial tomorrow

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  1. Lanny

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    ...I think he's possibly past the point of coping a plea...so he'll probably spend the rest of his life in jail.
     
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    I think he can flip anytime before the trial ends.

    You'd think a guy facing life in prison killing cockroaches non stop, would want to flip.
     
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    Trump is going to pardon him. Tonight.
     
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    I doubt that Trump will waste more of a pardon on him than pardoning him for passing gas.

    "With this sepulcher I, Donald Trump, President of these United States, hereby pardon you for passing gas that smells worse than your garbage can."
     
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    Manafort's strategy is certainly puzzling. All of his legal gambits have predictably failed. His type of case is easy to prove, and it sounds like they have plenty of evidence. Maybe he has a legal ace up his sleeve somehow, but at this point it seems unlikely. He could have made a plea deal months ago but instead went to jail. Maybe he wants to be put in witness protection and the feds are saying no? Maybe he's going to take a cyanide capsule? Maybe the Russkies will break him out of jail?

    Guess we'll find out soon.

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    Shit is about to go down.
     
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    It's Humpty Dumpty time!
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    Wow. Looks like Gates and Manafort totally played Meuller.

    Meuller dropped 22 charges against Gates and Gates testified he and Manafort failed to report foreign accounts (as Meuller told him to in exchange for immunity. If you do this knowingly and fully understanding the tax intricacies and laws pertaining to foreign accounts it is a crime (for which Gates has immunity).

    Then Gates proceeded to testify that he lied to the tax preparers.

    Then he testified that he had been embezzling from Manafort for years to the tune of several hundred thousand dollars.

    This effectively proved Manafort left the money matters and account details to Gates to handle, and had no knowledge of the financial crimes Gates was committing.
     
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    Good luck with that.

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    ...ummm, no.

    "I would say he was very knowledgeable. He (Manafort)was very detail-oriented. He approved every penny of everything we paid," Washkuhn told jurors.


    ...you also claimed that "the trial is on the verge of dismissal after only 2 days due to lack of evidence presented."

    ...still waiting on that link.
     
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    If it proves that Gates is all at fault then why is Mueller proceeding with apparently an iron clad case against mr. Manafort? Huh? Why?

    Any bets on the outcome of the Manafort trial? Ooh, then he's got another similar trial to go. Looks like he might not ever see daylight beyond a prison ever again. Which reminds me, do you think he'll flip?
     
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    OMG, Get your Maytag washer fixed as it's constantly stuck on spin cycle.
     
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    " After briefly guiding Gates through how he came to meet Manafort and work for him, Andres asked, “Were you involved in any criminal activity with Mr. Manafort?” Gates replied, “Yes.” Andres then asked, “Did you commit any crimes with Mr. Manafort?” Gates said, “Yes."

    Andres pressed for details. Gates said that he conspired to falsify Manafort’s tax returns by lying to his accountants about his finances. He said that he had done that “at Mr. Manafort’s request.” He also said that he and Manafort had set up fifteen foreign bank accounts without disclosing them to the U.S. government, and that they failed to register Manafort as a foreign agent. “When asked why he had lied, Gates said he had done so at Manafort’s request,” the Washington Post’s excellent live blog reported. “Separately, Gates explained that Manafort had directed him to report money wired from his foreign bank accounts as loans, rather than as income, to reduce Manafort’s taxable income. "
     
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    Total immunity for 22 counts = liar

    Any jury can see that.

    Judge Ellis has repeatedly said Meuller is abusing the justice system to smear the President, and doesn’t care about Gates or Manafort.
     
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    ...Ellis has not said that during the trial...but you already knew that, right?

    ...as far as Gates being a "liar"... he has a strong incentive to tell the truth.

    ...not sure if you are aware of it but part of the language of his plea deal with the Feds is a clause that essentially says that if he's caught in a lie his deal is automatically voided.
     
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