Too bad unless we trade we've got no chance to get him, but I would LOVE to see the kid in N.Y.Sure, he's got some character issues (DROP HIM LIKE 15 SPOTS SO NY CAN TAKE HIM)..but I highly doubt he will pull that stuff again. No laptops at MSG, LOL j/k.Marcus Williams is a solid mid-range shooter and a great distributor and great in transition. He would be our solution at PG. This way we could rid our selves of Not Starbury and Nate Robinson again a great spark plug at PG.If we could trade for Gordon, hopefully we give up Marbury or Francis..another option I would love is to trade Channing Frye. He just got a knee injury (bad sign) and he's not fitting in in NY. Sure he's a good scorer, but a weak rebounder and a weak player in general.If we could trade off Frye+Marbs/Francis that would be so dope. ----Starters------ ||||----Backups----PG-Marcus Williams------Nate Robinson(Marbury?)SG-Ben Gordon--------Jamal Crawford(Francis?)SF-Q. Richardson---------J. Rose(If we pick him up)PF-David Lee-------(Maybe Fazekas or someone via draft- if Isiah doesnt trade that too F*** man!)C-Curry-----------Jackie ButlerThis would clear up a lot of cap space by getting rid of Marbs or Francis and then Gordon is a great young talent and is icy cold from 3pt...!!! Crawford and Gordon two of the most clutch shooters in the game...and Gordon might look to play PG too.I know this is kind of a mess but I tried to convey all my thoughts at once.Scenarios:A) Trade for lottery pick and get Marcus Williams. Hopefully getting rid of Francis/Marbury and/or Frye.B)Trade for Gordon and move him to PG. Getting rid of Marbury/Francis and/or Frye. Address PF need via draft.
What was so unrealistic....at least tell me what was unrealistic instead of just saying it.Getting Gordon, well we are having talks? Trading up? I said we probably won't but it would be nice.
Ok first off, face it Isiah Thomas has been a horrible decision and has made some horrible decisions. I mean why would he trade for a second shoot first point guard in Francis. I doubt hell trade them away. Same w/ Frye since he showed he can do a lot more than expected. Next yes, theres been talks about Gordon leaving Chicago but im 99% sure its just talk. Gordon ahs been a great leader in Chicago and has been a big part of their success. I think hes becoming to valuable for them to get rid fo right now. Last if they did try and tarde up, who knows what they would have to give up for a pick to get marcus. I mean its possible he gets picked as high as the 4th pic by the Hawks. Its to big of a risk trading up, unless they trade up that high w/ the Hawks. This is why its unrealistic. theres just to amny thigns here theyll ahve to do to get all fot his.
i think marcus williams would be a great pickup for us but unless he slips to mid to late first round i just don't think we have the pieces to trade up. unless other teams want expiring contracts in rose and taylor or our crappy pg francis.why do you not like frye? he was the 2nd best rookie until he got injured. how is that a bad sign that he got hurt? did you see how it happened? that could've happened to anyone. he's no weak player either. just because he's a good perimeter player doesn't mean he's a weak player. he's not a post player but he has made some tough moves inside and posterized some people this year. he won't back down from anyone. frye can improve his rebounding and i'm confident that he will. if he gets traded we will feel like idiots because we gave up on a really good player.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nygiants4life @ May 17 2006, 02:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Too bad unless we trade we've got no chance to get him, but I would LOVE to see the kid in N.Y.Sure, he's got some character issues (DROP HIM LIKE 15 SPOTS SO NY CAN TAKE HIM)..but I highly doubt he will pull that stuff again. No laptops at MSG, LOL j/k.Marcus Williams is a solid mid-range shooter and a great distributor and great in transition. He would be our solution at PG. This way we could rid our selves of Not Starbury and Nate Robinson again a great spark plug at PG.If we could trade for Gordon, hopefully we give up Marbury or Francis..another option I would love is to trade Channing Frye. He just got a knee injury (bad sign) and he's not fitting in in NY. Sure he's a good scorer, but a weak rebounder and a weak player in general.If we could trade off Frye+Marbs/Francis that would be so dope. ----Starters------ ||||----Backups----PG-Marcus Williams------Nate Robinson(Marbury?)SG-Ben Gordon--------Jamal Crawford(Francis?)SF-Q. Richardson---------J. Rose(If we pick him up)PF-David Lee-------(Maybe Fazekas or someone via draft- if Isiah doesnt trade that too F*** man!)C-Curry-----------Jackie ButlerThis would clear up a lot of cap space by getting rid of Marbs or Francis and then Gordon is a great young talent and is icy cold from 3pt...!!! Crawford and Gordon two of the most clutch shooters in the game...and Gordon might look to play PG too.I know this is kind of a mess but I tried to convey all my thoughts at once.Scenarios:A) Trade for lottery pick and get Marcus Williams. Hopefully getting rid of Francis/Marbury and/or Frye.B)Trade for Gordon and move him to PG. Getting rid of Marbury/Francis and/or Frye. Address PF need via draft.</div> Knicks fans live in a dream world...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ May 17 2006, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Knicks fans live in a dream world...</div>why do you think you know everything about knicks fans? i told him that i don't think it could happen because we don't have the right guys. does that mean i'm living in a dream world too? :no3:
I've never met one reasonable Knicks fan on any forum i've been on. They all loved the addition on Steve Francis and many of them want K-Mart...none of them want to blow the team up and start over.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ May 17 2006, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I've never met one reasonable Knicks fan on any forum i've been on. They all loved the addition on Steve Francis and many of them want K-Mart...none of them want to blow the team up and start over.</div>nice to meet ya. i hated the francis trade and i hate the martin rumor. the knicks were an embarassment this season but i still want them to win. is that reasonable?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nykfan4life @ May 17 2006, 12:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i think marcus williams would be a great pickup for us but unless he slips to mid to late first round i just don't think we have the pieces to trade up. unless other teams want expiring contracts in rose and taylor or our crappy pg francis.why do you not like frye? he was the 2nd best rookie until he got injured. how is that a bad sign that he got hurt? did you see how it happened? that could've happened to anyone. he's no weak player either. just because he's a good perimeter player doesn't mean he's a weak player. he's not a post player but he has made some tough moves inside and posterized some people this year. he won't back down from anyone. frye can improve his rebounding and i'm confident that he will. if he gets traded we will feel like idiots because we gave up on a really good player.</div>I know I like Frye, but he's just the odd-man out in this situation. He seems to be a hot and cold shooter and makes poor decisions.He's an okay rebounder, David Lee is better than him though and I think Lee is more athletic..@BCB: How am I living in a dream world? At least explain it..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nygiants4life @ May 17 2006, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I know I like Frye, but he's just the odd-man out in this situation. He seems to be a hot and cold shooter and makes poor decisions.He's an okay rebounder, David Lee is better than him though and I think Lee is more athletic..@BCB: How am I living in a dream world? At least explain it..</div>i think the 3 youngn's have to stay together. they're the guys who brought us back into games when we were down. i love those guys, especially lee. yea he is more athletic but i see him as a role player that does all the dirty work and is adored by the fans which he already is. frye can't go though.
