http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=17246 <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Brunell Begins Transition to New OffenseBy Gary FitzgeraldRedskins.comMay 16, 2006Mark Brunell has spent countless hours this offseason watching film and studying the offenses of the Kansas City Chiefs and St. Louis Rams of recent vintage.Both the Chiefs and the Rams are known for high-powered, versatile offenses--and both teams were the previous two coaching stops of new Redskins' associate head coach-offense Al Saunders.Starting this week, in Organized Team Activities (OTAs), Brunell begins to apply what he's learned and adjust to the schemes and terminology employed by Saunders.Brunell is expected to enter the 2006 season as the Redskins' starting quarterback."We're learning a lot of new concepts," Brunell said after Tuesday's OTA practice. "We've spent a lot of time in the meeting room watching [film]of this offense in St. Louis and Kansas City. Any time anything is brand new, it takes a lot of time to get comfortable with it."Brunell, entering his 14th NFL season, has worked in several different offenses throughout his career, including head coach Joe Gibbs' offense the last two years.Both Saunders and Gibbs hail from the Don Coryell coaching tree and have an offensive philosophy that has its roots in the innovative, pass-oriented "Air Coryell" offense.That foundation should help ease Brunell's transition.Saunders's play-calling philosophy is aggressive, but it includes a solid mix of run and pass. He is expected to include more shifts and motions by running backs, tight ends and wide receivers.Even though Brunell won't be among those players moving at the line of scrimmage, he will need to recognize the formations and know precisely where teammates are lining up."Last year, we became more of an aggressive offense because we were able to get the ball down the field," Brunell said. "Obviously, the addition of Santana [Moss] helped us, with his speed and quickness and the way he plays. I expect that this offense will be more aggressive."We'll definitely try to get the ball in the hands of playmakers like Santana, Antwaan [Randle El] and Brandon [Lloyd]. Antwaan and Brandon will only help us that much more. It's exciting to have all those playmakers out there."On Tuesday, the first day of OTA practices, Brunell and the new offense went up against the Redskins' defense for the first time this offseason. In OTAs, players are not permitted to wear pads or make contact with other players, but they can establish offensive sets and run plays.After practice, Brunell mentioned several leaping catches by Lloyd as among the plays that stood out on Tuesday. Then, as Brunell spoke to media after practice, Randle El walked by and encouraged him to mention one of his spectacular grabs that afternoon.Regarding Randle El and Lloyd, Brunell said: "Even before they got on the field here, I was really impressed with what they did in Pittsburgh and San Francisco. In just the short time that I've worked with them [in off-season workouts and OTAs], I can see that they're everything I've seen on film."Antwaan's a great athlete. Brandon--he's a guy who can really go up, get a ball and make a great catch. They seem to be great team guys and they have a great work ethic. I'm very impressed with those guys."Brunell is coming off a season in which he helped guide the Redskins to the playoffs for the first time in six years. He started 15-of-16 regular-season games and completed 262-of-454 passes for 3,050 yards, 23 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. His QB rating was 85.9.The addition of Randle El and Lloyd, to go along with Clinton Portis, Moss, Chris Cooley and David Patten, promises to make the Redskins' offense more dynamic next season.Brunell cautioned against any expectations of instant success."It takes time to get good in any offense," Brunell said. "It takes time in the meeting rooms and time on the fields. How much we can progress in the next month, through the mini-camp and training camp--it remains to be seen. Hopefully by the time [the regular-season opener against] Minnesota rolls around, we'll be very comfortable and very efficient in this offense."</div>I don't wanna hear any cautions from him, hes got a couple months to get this shit down, SO GIT ER DUN.
It can take years to learn a new offense man. It will probably help that Joe Gibbs' offense ran several similar philosophy's though, so I doubt it will take that long for Brunell to learn the offense, However your offense may struggle out of the gate because of that evil word called Chemistry that your players dont have right now. My main concern though would be weather or not Brunell has enough of an arm to make all the throws in this vertical passing system. He was never really known as a QB with much of an arm.
We may not have chemistry when it comes to the new plays yet, but one thing I do know about this team is our morale. It's one for all on this team, and that goes for everybody on it. We are a big family.As for Brunell's armstrength, you might want to double check on that cuz last year we really got him throwing the ball deep successfully, especially to Moss. Brunell has a good arm.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Johnny White Guy @ May 17 2006, 10:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We may not have chemistry when it comes to the new plays yet, but one thing I do know about this team is our morale. It's one for all on this team, and that goes for everybody on it. We are a big family.As for Brunell's armstrength, you might want to double check on that cuz last year we really got him throwing the ball deep successfully, especially to Moss. Brunell has a good arm.</div>The Majority of Santana Moss's long touchdowns were because of an extreme amount of YAC he got you. Im not saying Brunell is bad at throwing the ball deep, but outside of the Dallas game and beating up on the terrible Will Allen, Brunell was not much of a force with the deep ball and we both know it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ May 17 2006, 10:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It can take years to learn a new offense man. It will probably help that Joe Gibbs' offense ran several similar philosophy's though, so I doubt it will take that long for Brunell to learn the offense, However your offense may struggle out of the gate because of that evil word called Chemistry that your players dont have right now. My main concern though would be weather or not Brunell has enough of an arm to make all the throws in this vertical passing system. He was never really known as a QB with much of an arm.</div>Thats what i try to tell people because they obviously thinks it doesn't take that long to learn a new system but it indeed does. A lot of quarterbacks would usually struggle the first year because you have so many plays in a playbook that you have to know in certain situations what to do so most players would literally make a mistakes. Just like Mark Brunell, he badly struggle in his first year as a Washington Redskins and after a few games Coach Gibb benched him but the next year he was off the hook. He kept learning and he obviously done a great job putting his team behind his back.
Well good thing Gibbs and Saunders both use that "Air Coryell" pass oriented offense then, the way Saunders did stuff in KC isnt all that much different than the way Gibbs was running stuff here.
here's a good post on Mark Brunell from over at Extremeskins.com:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bubba9497)</div><div class='quotemain'>I posted this in another thread, but felt it was worthy of a thread of it's own.Many experts, and fans of opposing teams keep clamoring that the Skins will only go as far as Mark Brunell will take them. Saying he wore down and sputtered the second half... stats were way down, and all blame it on his age, being worn out injuries.But when you check the stats, the real reason Brunell's numbers dropped was due to Patten's injuryBrunell's numbers show he was consistent all season, and only his Yards total dropped (as did his attempts) after the injuries to Patten & Thrash. But his accuracy only suffered after his injury against the Giants, for only the two games, the Eagles game at home & Tampa Bay in the Playoffs, but we were still able to win the games. In the Seattle game his totals were all way up again.37 Att. 22 Comp. 59.comp. % 242 Yards 1 TD. 0 INT. 87.9% QB ratingHe only had 2 games before his injury where he completed less than 55% of his passes, NYG away game, and against Oakland at home, he had only two games where he had multiple ints (Tampa on the road game 1 [2 ints] and Against Arizona on the road [3 Int]) He had 10 ZERO int gamesHis attempts went way down after Pattens injury, Before Pattens injury 290 attempts in 9 games, he had 5 games of 30 attempts or more (1 game 41 attempts, and 1 game 52 attempts)... where after Pattens injury 164 attempts in 9 games, he had only one game of thirty attempts (2 games under 20 Attempts, 11 against the Giants at home, and 15 attempts against Bucs in the playoffs)In 9 games with Patten Brunell had 2007 yards passing, In 9 games after Pattens injury 1043 yards ... almost half as many.His YPA before Pattens injury 6.92, After 6.35 Hardly a big drop off, which suggests that his game didn't level off the second half, only his passing oppurtunities without a viable #2 threat to prevent Moss & Cooley from being double covered.He's knee injury in the Giants game could happen to any QB, and had nothing to do with his age... and one point everyone is ignoring... something I might add that Gibbs values a great deal......, Brunell's many years of game experience. His understanding of the passing game, and ability to read defenses, make plays, and avoid mistakes (turnovers).If you look at his numbers with a viable #2 playing opposite Moss, one can only drool about the possibilties he will have with 4 quality WR, and Cooley for the entire season.</div>http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155822
I still can't get over how good he was doing with Patten and Thrash complementing Moss... Randle El and Lloyd are a lot better too... Randle El = Patten, except a shit load better / fasterLloyd = Thrash, except a shit load betterFauria = Royal, except betterSo with 3 new starters that play just like the old starters did, our chemistry should be fine.
Lol Fauria and Royal are different kinds of TE's. Royal is more of a pass catcher and Fauria is more of a blocker. But either way, I agree that all of our offseason upgrades are a shit load better than last year's starters.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Redskins QB Brunell has broken finger Click here to find out more!NFL.com wire reportsASHBURN, Va. (June 2, 2006) -- Washington Redskins quarterback Mark Brunell has a small fracture in his left index finger and is expected to miss two to three weeks of offseason workouts.Brunell was hurt during a workout earlier this week, but the team did not announce the injury until June 2. Because Brunell is left-handed, he will have to sit out most of the remaining spring practices, although he might return in time for the June 16-18 minicamp.The 35-year-old Brunell is expected to be ready for the start of training camp in late July.Brunell is coming off one of his best seasons. He threw for 23 touchdowns and 10 interceptions to help lead the Redskins to their first playoff appearance since 1999.</div>http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/WAS/9475968
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sheriff Gonna Getcha @ Jun 3 2006, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hopefully he breaks all his fingers so Jason Campbell can play.</div>I'm not hoping Brunell gets any more injured, but I'm sure this injury will open up some attention for Jason Campbell at practice--he can use the time Mark isn't on the feild to try and prove that he is ready to take on the starting role.
I'm not sure about Campbell. He may not fit the offense, or he might. I do think we will see him though in preseason games and maybe opening a little in the reg season. I don't know why you guys like Jason so much
I have to agree, there wasnt alot of plays in there that made me think 'wow'.Half of the clips were throwing the ball to wide open recievers, watching his recievers get good YAC by jukeing a defender, or a great play by the reciever to come down with the catch. Wow, He can throw a 5 yard dumpoff route and watch his reciever take it 30 yards. Wow, he can make the toss on an option play and watch his runningback get a touchdown....He seems to have a decent arm, but how hard is it to throw to someone wide open or lob it up there and let your reciever make the play.I dont think I saw a single play in there where he had to thread the needle to make a great throw or had to throw the ball into double coverage or a single play where he made a great throw under pressure or anything like that. I think the most impressive play in there was the QB Scramble...and thats not saying much.
I'm pretty Sure Auburn wouldn't have went undefeated with their QB.And I'm talking about the Redskins game.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sheriff Gonna Getcha @ Jun 7 2006, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm pretty Sure Auburn wouldn't have went undefeated with their QB.And I'm talking about the Redskins game.</div>The one throw he made? It was a nice throw but once again the WR was pretty open there, he had a good step over the Ravens 3rd String Cornerback who was trying to cover him. Im just saying that your posting footage like were supposed to see something amazing there and to me it looked rather average. Now, granted, I didnt watch much Auburn football in 2005 so I couldnt tell you why they were undefeated, but id be willing to bet people like Cadillac Williams, Ronnie Brown, and Marcus McNeill and their WR's getting open like they were in that clip had a good amount to do with it also. It wasnt all Campbell.
