Mark Cuban's big blockbuster

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  1. worldchamps9903

    worldchamps9903 JBB JustBBall Member

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    It could be. The salaries miraculously match up.

    Dallas trades: SF Antawn Jamison (14.8 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 29.0 minutes)
    SG Michael Finley (18.6 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.9 apg in 38.6 minutes)
    Dallas receives: C Theo Ratliff (7.9 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 0.8 apg in 31.3 minutes)
    PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (16.3 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.6 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: -9.2 ppg, +3.9 rpg, and -1.0 apg.

    Portland trades: C Theo Ratliff (7.9 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 0.8 apg in 31.3 minutes)
    PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (16.3 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.6 minutes)
    Portland receives: SF Antawn Jamison (14.8 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 82 games)
    SG Michael Finley (18.6 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.9 apg in 72 games)
    Change in team outlook: +9.2 ppg, -3.9 rpg, and +1.0 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    It ravages Portland at center, but Reef and Ratliff are gone soon enough anyway. The down-side is that Portland wouldn't take on this salary, but maybe Dallas is desperate enough to throw in Howard.

    DA is oft-injured and not very tradeable. Neither is Ruben. (they're porbably ready to be left unprotected.) With this trade you have a very good SG who can teach and two nice SFs. Miles has great athleticism and is still a future project, but you can also use Jamison who can lat out put it in the basket and rebound some.

    Portland:
    C - Vladimir Stepania/Robert Swift?
    PF - Randolph, Davis
    SF - Miles, Jamison, Outlaw
    SG - Finley, Ruben, Woods
    PG - Damon, Gill, Dickau, etc.

    For Dallas, RR won't be Russell and Wilt, but they'll sure make you think twice going down the lane (which you'll be able to) compared to Fortson or Bradley. (or small ball "5") You've already got two swingmen to replace Bradley and Jamison.

    I'll stick to positions, not best lineups.

    Dallas
    C - Theo, Fortson, Bradley,Williams
    PF - Dirk (sort of), Reef
    SF - Walker, Najera
    SG - Daniels and Howard (G/F)
    PG - Nash, Best, Delk
     
  2. Mamba

    Mamba The King is Back Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I doubt it, if you were just playing around with people, it most likely wont happen...if you have a source or something than there is more of a chance
     
  3. KingSac

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    I don't know if its gonna happen but it's a good trade.
     
  4. dachen33

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    Hell no for the blazers, Theo is sooooo sweet in Portland, the fans loves him, he gives the Blazers a very strong hold from the paint. Hey have you watch his games against the lakers and the kings, he rejected Kobe' dunks twice, that is why kobe become a passer in the secondhalf, he didnt drive at all because he knows Theo is there.
     
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    Hey the Mavs needs Theo because of his blocking abilitys but come on, they gonna offer some thing better. Also with the way D-Miles is playing we dont need another sf foward that shots a lot to get 20 points. Also Stepania and Robert Swift, those weak sauces center cant even block a shot will take over the Great Theo Ratlft. No way. They gotta throw in some thing better like Dirk to get Theo
     
  6. Mez

    Mez JBB JustBBall Member

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    I don't think we'll see Theo leaving Portland for a while. He has played great since joining the Blazers and they seem to love him. Plus I'm sure they love having a great shot blocker for a change, guys like him don't come around too often. I expect Shareef to be traded early in the offseason, and I think he will be packaged with Damon Stoudamire.
     
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    I don't think the mavs could ever win in the west without a great power forward that plays d and a very good centre, but i don't think sheriff can offer that. cuban should give what ever detroit wants for big ben! even Dirk! offence is not a problem, I think they need a 7 foot centre say big Z.

    c Z
    pf wallace [​IMG]
    sf jamison
    sg howard
    pg nash

    trade finley and walker, antoine looked as though he was gonna do something good this year before he started moaning again, just play my friend.
     
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    hapnnsas JBB JustBBall Member

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    We will NOT trade Theo. If we do I have lost all hope. What's this whole Ruben being injured a lot thing or whatever you meant. He is not good enough to be a starter but he is the most aggressive player on this team. He is probably 2nd best defender we got behind Theo too. He is a GREAT force off the bench. I like Derek too, he just isn't as consistant as I would like him to be.
     
  9. ReRun

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    um one thing, the mavs wont trrade finley unless he wants out, and he said that he wanted to stay in dallas, plus it wouldnt work, abdur-rahim and dirk would clash.
    o ya, and when u said theyd be desperate enough to trade howard, thats absoluetly stupid.
     
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    its a good trade if you're trading walker too..

    Theo
    Reef
    Dirk
    Daniels/Howard/player traded for walker
    Nash if he stays
     
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    are you on crack? theres no way that would happen, dallas wouldnt even want that.
     
  12. Peja King

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    who loves antoine walker?? its like the most overrated player in the nba
     
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    Paul Piece??? But i know that Walker will be a good fit for the Rockets or the Spurs, yao and duncan will get double team often and open three for walker is VERY likely
     
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    Besides the two rookies, the only player who I expect to be there for sure next season is Dirk. All the others are up on the trading block, and Nash might not even stay. Although I love Finley in Dallas and he is one of my favorite players, I think he and Dallas will finally be parting their ways in a trade this offseason. I also don't expect Walker or Jamison back, maybe a huge blockbuster trade again? We'll see. If anyone had to remain from those, I would probably like to see Jamison back with Dirk. I don't see that very likely though, because they'll probably need to package him with Walker just because no one really wants Walker anymore.

    This is going to be a huge offseason for Dallas, and I expect a whole different team next season.. especially if they lose the upcoming game 5.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting worldchamps9903:</div><div class="quote_post">It could be. The salaries miraculously match up.

    Dallas trades: SF Antawn Jamison (14.8 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 29.0 minutes)
    SG Michael Finley (18.6 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.9 apg in 38.6 minutes)
    Dallas receives: C Theo Ratliff (7.9 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 0.8 apg in 31.3 minutes)
    PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (16.3 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.6 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: -9.2 ppg, +3.9 rpg, and -1.0 apg.

    Portland trades: C Theo Ratliff (7.9 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 0.8 apg in 31.3 minutes)
    PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (16.3 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.6 minutes)
    Portland receives: SF Antawn Jamison (14.8 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 82 games)
    SG Michael Finley (18.6 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.9 apg in 72 games)
    Change in team outlook: +9.2 ppg, -3.9 rpg, and +1.0 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

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    Hey worldchamp, can you send me the website you use to see whethere the trade works or not.
     
  16. King James X3

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dachen33:</div><div class="quote_post">Paul Piece??? But i know that Walker will be a good fit for the Rockets or the Spurs, yao and duncan will get double team often and open three for walker is VERY likely</div>

    Exactly. No team will trade for Walker if they don't already have a low post presense because Walker isn't the textbook power foward. Players like Duncan, Yao Ming, Shaquille O'Neal, and other big men who demand a double team who benefit tremendously from Walker playing alongside them. Opposing power fowards would be forced to respect Walker's three point ability and guard him 20+ feet away from the basket. Thus the aforementioned players would have PLENTY of room to operate in a one on one situation, and still wouldn't have to worry about weak side defense or shot blocking.

    Also, the trade simulator can be found at RealGM.com

    As for the trade posted at the top of this thread, it's simply absurd. Portland has made it no secret that they have no interest in picking up big dollar long term contracts. That's why when they moved Rasheed they did so for two players, Ratliff and Abdur-Rahim, who's contracts both run out at the end of next season. The only player that WOULD draw interest from Portland would be Jamison, there was infact talk about a Jamison & Abdul Wahad deal for Rasheed, but Portland refused to pick up Abdul's contract along with Jamison's. Perhaps a Jamison for Abdur-Rahim is more probable.
     
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    kingofcrossover JBB JustBBall Member

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    i think this is a great trade for portland. they get finley who could help take pressure off stoudamire. also with jamison they get a post/gaurd who can go underneath against most small fowards
     
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    If the Mavericks are planning on winning the championship, they need to get rid of Dirk and get a better defender than he is.
     
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    GET RID OF DIRK?
    No way man!
    The big 3 of Dirk, Nash And Finley cannot be broken up if the Mavs hope to win, they HAVE to trade Walker and Jamison for defensive players and role players, thats all that they are lacking, too many scorers is not a good thing, that's why the Spurs won the championship last year, a mix of scoring, big men, defense, and role players.
     
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    The Big 3 is the reason why they can't win a championship. Lack of defense!
     

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