Mark Jackson

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  1. txuonline

    txuonline JBB Banned Member

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    where is mark jackson going to sign? even though he is old and sux on defense i still think he is one of the best passers and tempo directing point guards in the L. how come nobody signed him?

    toronto should have resigned him istead of brunson or palacio.
     
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    Shut up with what Toronto should of done. GG probly did his best. Jackson wants to go to a winner not a loser like the raps.
     
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    If Terry ends up in Utah, he wont be going back at all. 4 PG's is enough. If Terry doesn't end up in Utah, very unlikely, Utah will be forced to sign him to a one year.
     
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    Mark Jackson should pull a "John Salley" and sign with the Lakers and get a ring.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Mark Jackson should pull a "John Salley" and sign with the Lakers and get a ring.</div>

    You mean he should be a leech, like Malone and Payton? But maybe that's not a fair comparison because Jackson was never a franchise player who was expected to get his team a ring. Those guys were and they didn't do it, so now they are hoping someone else will do it for them. Jason Kidd flirted with the idea of being a leech, but he resisted. His ring would have been tainted if he wins with the Spurs.

    Anyway, Mark will help a team that needs a backup, particularly for someone with a young point guard. He'd do better anyplace rather than Portland where he'd never see any light.
     
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    i wish marcy was still with us Raptors. [​IMG]
     
  9. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Waneko:</div><div class="quote_post">You mean he should be a leech, like Malone and Payton? But maybe that's not a fair comparison because Jackson was never a franchise player who was expected to get his team a ring. Those guys were and they didn't do it, so now they are hoping someone else will do it for them. Jason Kidd flirted with the idea of being a leech, but he resisted. His ring would have been tainted if he wins with the Spurs.

    Anyway, Mark will help a team that needs a backup, particularly for someone with a young point guard. He'd do better anyplace rather than Portland where he'd never see any light.</div>

    People are quick to call Payton and Malone leeches, but I completely disagree. They are going to be major contributors to the team and will be starters on the Lakers. Both players are still All Star caliber, as opposed to a star player who can hardly compete anymore, ie Mitch Richmond. If anything they should be applauded for choosing winning over money, it's a shame more players don't follow their example. If you want to call anyone a leech, let's call these overpaid player leeches. They suck up all the cap space and make it impossible for the team to build a winner.
     
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    Nah, I don't buy it. The bottom line is that Malane and Payton will be riding the coattails of Shaq and Kobe, who can win with a regular (less talented) supporting cast. It's perfectly normal for someone on the decline like Mitch to become part of someone's regular supporting cast. But if you are an all-star calliber player, you should go to a team where you are still the main guy, but the supporting cast the team offers is better than the one you had. If those guys are so generous, why not go to a team like the Knicks, where they need a point guard and size, and where the other pieces are in place. You can't say the Knicks wouldn't compete for the east title with those two guys. They would get a lot more glory if they did that and the Knicks went to the finals. If the Lakers win, any contribution they make will be tainted.

    By the way, even though I am a Knicks fan, I am in no way expressing sour grapes about their choice. I have said that I prefer for the Knicks to clean house and start from scratch. Malone isn't one of my favorite players either. He is a crybaby and a lot of his legend can be credited to John Stockton, who a million times passed him the ball in places where even you and I would score an easy bucket. Now that Stockton is gone, Malone can shoot his jumpers after Shaq waves him out of the lane.
     
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    How can you say that Shaq and Kobe can win with a less talented supporting cast, when last year they clearly couldn't? Because of their lack of any talent beyond Shaq and Kobe, they lost this year. Payton and Malone address the Lakers' 2 biggest issues. Meaning that they'll actually do something important, not just "ride the coattails" of Shaq and Kobe. They both help out immensely on the defensive end, and defense is no laughing matter. Why would they choose to go the Knicks? Even if they both played on the same team, they would have nowhere near as much a chance of winning a championship as they would if they were on the Lakers. The Knicks with Payton and Malone is still not as good as the Kings or the Spurs.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobeonfire:</div><div class="quote_post">How can you say that Shaq and Kobe can win with a less talented supporting cast, when last year they clearly couldn't? Because of their lack of any talent beyond Shaq and Kobe, they lost this year. Payton and Malone address the Lakers' 2 biggest issues. Meaning that they'll actually do something important, not just "ride the coattails" of Shaq and Kobe. They both help out immensely on the defensive end, and defense is no laughing matter. Why would they choose to go the Knicks? Even if they both played on the same team, they would have nowhere near as much a chance of winning a championship as they would if they were on the Lakers. The Knicks with Payton and Malone is still not as good as the Kings or the Spurs.</div>

    That's right they didn't win last year because the supporting cast they won with the all those years prior began slipping (to be kind). They still could have just replaced the spare parts like Horry, Fisher etc, with other spare parts and still competed with the Spurs for the West. I never said the Knicks with Malone and Payton would be as good as the Spurs or the Kings. I said they would win the East. The bottom line is you can't argue that the Lakers really need Malone and Payton just because they didn't win the championship once out of the last four years. Even before the Lakers loaded up with those guys, the Spurs were not a lock to win the West, or to beat L.A.
     

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