McCain Surrenders in Colorado

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  1. Денг Гордон

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    All I can say is...what!?!?!

    So let me get this straight.

    John Kerry = 252 EV

    So McCain has surrenedered Iowa and New Mexico previously.

    So

    Kerry + Iowa + New Mexico + Colorado = 273

    This is exactly one of the maps Obama drew up that he could win without Florida/Ohio, and the McCain campaign is handing him this map. Doesn't make a bit of sense. There plan is to win Pennsylvania's 21 EV's.

    I've also heard that McCain is ready to surrender in Virginia, which would put Obama up to 286 EV's. So in the case that he is surrendering both, he could potentially win by limiting Obama to 265 if McCain is able to steal Pennsylvania.

    The problem? Pennsylvania is leaning Obama heavily. Colorado and Virginia were closer than Pennsylvania has been. I think the McCain campaign sees going after one state is easier than two...but go after the ones that have been past Republican states, they will be easier to hold.

    With this decision, I just don't see any feasible way for McCain to win the presidency. The pollster average has McCain down 15.3% in Pennsylvania on average, there is no way he can come back from down that much.
     
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    What!?!?!
     
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    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/20/mccain-camp-looking-for-way-to-win-without-colorado/
     
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    http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/17764334/detail.html

    John Murtha Calls Western Pa. 'Redneck'

    Congressman Says Western Pa. Was 'Really Redneck'


    CHARLEROI, Pa. -- U.S. Rep. John Murtha is calling many of the people who put him in office "rednecks."The news comes one week after Murtha claimed the area is racist, then apologized for that comment.In explaining his comments about racism, Murtha, D-Johnstown, told WTAE Channel 4 Action News on Monday it's difficult for many in the area to change. Murtha said that just five to 10 years ago the entire area was "redneck."

    Now Murtha said only certain segments of the population are holding on to those racist feelings.Just days after classifying western Pennsylvania as racist, Murtha took a step back from those comments, albeit a small one."What I said, that indicted everybody, that's not what I meant at all. What I mean is there's still folks that have a problem voting for someone because they are black," Murtha said.

    Murtha said the history of southwestern Pennsylvania is rife with racism."

    This whole area, years ago, was really redneck," Murtha told Channel 4 Action News.

    Murtha believes there is one segment of the population which is holding on to its racist beliefs and he said it's difficult for them to change. Murtha said it may be even more difficult for them to vote for Sen. Barack Obama for president.

    "Particularly older people. They want change but they don't want to see things go too far," Murtha said.

    Murtha's comments on Monday were made in Charleroi, Washington County, at an event to open the expansion facility of Nokomis, Inc., and to announce recent contracts the company had received from the Department of Defense.Throughout the Mon Valley there is a mixed reaction to Murtha's comments."

    I think he made a big mistake. This valley is not racist. Not at all," said Robert Gray, of Charleroi.

    Maurice Taylor, also of Charleroi, disagrees."I think it probably is, couple people here and there. Like not everybody, but some of them definitely. Older people mostly," Taylor said.Murtha said he was not surprised to see Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton win the Democratic primary in Pennsylvania and he said he didn't think Obama had a chance to win the presidency after that. But since then, he claims many western Pennsylvania voters have come around and he believes many voters have left their racist beliefs behind.

    "It's better than it was a few weeks ago. It's better than it was a few months ago," Murtha said.

    Murtha said he has taken a new approach to dealing with voters who are factoring race into the equation. He said he asks them if they agree with John McCain's healthcare policy or with his desire to privatize social security.

    "I'm saying to them, 'Let's not vote on whether he's black or white. Let's vote on what the issues are,'" said Murtha.
     
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    Um, McCain has two rallies scheduled in CO this Friday.

    http://colorado.johnmccain.com/Colorado.htm

    The media is doing all they can to get Obama across the finish line.

    So much for facts! Let's just rely on rumors.

    What a f**king joke.
     
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    McCain will be in New Mexico twice over the weekend.

    Where are you getting your info other than CNN's anonymous "McCain insiders"?
     
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    Those are his concession speeches...

    barfo
     
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    Did anonymous "McCain insiders" give you this scoop? :lol:
     
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    The message was spelled out in whipped cream on the top of my pie.

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    Was it apple pie? If so, you may have had some of my pie!
     
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    I had all of your pie. Mmm, pie. Why don't you get busy and make me more pie?

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    If McCain has surrendered in Colorado, he's sure going about it in an unusual way. Sarah Palin was in Grand Junction yesterday and his ads are all over this state.
     
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    Yes, that's the same way he's surrendered the race everywhere. So I guess it is true.

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    Palin drew 22k in Grand Junction, CO.

    The media sucks balls.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I agree, the media sucks. But I don't think that drawing 22K is that impressive when you have Obama drawing 100K in St Louis and then 75K in Kansas.

    Yah yah, I know. Obama is a socialist rockstar, who is a Marx Brother (Harpo, Groucho, Zeppo, Chico and Obamo) America hating Liberal who is a secret muslim who hangs with terrorists and that Palin is a "true" American.
     
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    Drawing 100K in St Louis? There has to be at least that many people living in poverty.
     
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    If there's one thing McCain is experienced at, it's surrendering.
     
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    Have you been to Grand Junction? It would be equivalent to drawing almost a million people in St. Louis.
     
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    Nice one maxiep. :cheers:
     

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