Who do you think is the better overall and all-around player? I'll take Redd now because he has become more of an inside player. Also Redd is the better playmaker and is younger
Michael Redd has gotten into the free throw line 7.4 times per game Ray Allen has gotten in the free throw line 4.3 times per game do the math.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vcTmac24 @ Jan 3 2008, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'll take Redd now because he has become more of an inside player.</div> So Redd has become more of an inside player than past years? It says nothing about Ray Allen there, yet you chane your stance to include Ray Allen here. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vcTmac24 @ Jan 3 2008, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Michael Redd has gotten into the free throw line 7.4 times per game Ray Allen has gotten in the free throw line 4.3 times per game</div> Last year Redd went to the FT line 7.9 times per game. This year 7.4. That's a lower number, if you didn't notice. http://www.82games.com/0607/06MIL7A.HTM 2006-2007 Michael Redd Jumpers 69% Close 30% Dunks 1% Inside= 31% http://www.82games.com/0708/07MIL4A.HTM 2007-2008 Michael Redd Jumpers 71% Close 29% Inside = 29% You really need to take a logic class or something, dude. Or maybe just stop being a dumbass.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182 @ Jan 3 2008, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This isn't fair. Michael Redd's more youthier.</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vcTmac24 @ Jan 3 2008, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Michael Redd has gotten into the free throw line 7.4 times per game Ray Allen has gotten in the free throw line 4.3 times per game do the math.</div> That doesn't mean Redd's game has anything to do with the interior. It's all perimeter-driven. Spot up jumpers, catch-and-shoot, and he has expanded his arsenal with a bit more penetration over the past two seasons. However, Ray Allen is just as good if not better than Redd beating his man off the dribble. Ray is not the quickest player by any means, but once he gets that half-step on his man, the defender never gets it back. Ray's free throw attempts are also clearly cut down this season, as he is playing with one of the best 1-on-1 scorers in the game in Paul Pierce. He's our slasher, he dominates the ball much more than Ray. Redd also is "the man" in Milwaukee, so of course he's going to get more opportunities. Redd has improved, no question, but I think I would still take Ray Allen for the time being. Ray has also impressed me with his defense this year, something I never thought he could play remotely well. One-on-one, he's nothing special, but he makes great reads and has been a big part of our successful help D. Ray is the better ball handler, has a higher basketball IQ, and certainly is a much better creator both off the dribble and for his teammates. The biggest factor, however, is Ray's leadership. I would give the slight edge to Ray at this point, but next year is probably a different story.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jan 3 2008, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vcTmac24 @ Jan 3 2008, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'll take Redd now because he has become more of an inside player.</div> So Redd has become more of an inside player than past years? It says nothing about Ray Allen there, yet you chane your stance to include Ray Allen here. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vcTmac24 @ Jan 3 2008, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Michael Redd has gotten into the free throw line 7.4 times per game Ray Allen has gotten in the free throw line 4.3 times per game</div> Last year Redd went to the FT line 7.9 times per game. This year 7.4. That's a lower number, if you didn't notice. http://www.82games.com/0607/06MIL7A.HTM 2006-2007 Michael Redd Jumpers 69% Close 30% Dunks 1% Inside= 31% http://www.82games.com/0708/07MIL4A.HTM 2007-2008 Michael Redd Jumpers 71% Close 29% Inside = 29% You really need to take a logic class or something, dude. Or maybe just stop being a dumbass. </div> you just said Allen is more of an inside player have you looked at Ray Allen's Jumpers and close? They are even higher and nice personal attack. By the way Reported....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vcTmac24 @ Jan 3 2008, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jan 3 2008, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vcTmac24 @ Jan 3 2008, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'll take Redd now because he has become more of an inside player.</div> So Redd has become more of an inside player than past years? It says nothing about Ray Allen there, yet you chane your stance to include Ray Allen here. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vcTmac24 @ Jan 3 2008, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Michael Redd has gotten into the free throw line 7.4 times per game Ray Allen has gotten in the free throw line 4.3 times per game</div> Last year Redd went to the FT line 7.9 times per game. This year 7.4. That's a lower number, if you didn't notice. http://www.82games.com/0607/06MIL7A.HTM 2006-2007 Michael Redd Jumpers 69% Close 30% Dunks 1% Inside= 31% http://www.82games.com/0708/07MIL4A.HTM 2007-2008 Michael Redd Jumpers 71% Close 29% Inside = 29% You really need to take a logic class or something, dude. Or maybe just stop being a dumbass. </div> you just said Allen is more of an inside player have you looked at Ray Allen's Jumpers and close? They are even higher and nice personal attack. By the way Reported.... </div> Nowhere did I say Allen is more of an inside player. Show me where I said that. Both of them are perimeter players. Your posts get more idiotic every time.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jan 3 2008, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%">More of an inside player? How so?</span> He is as much of a jump-shooter as ever.</div> please remember better Thanks
Ray Allen 07-08 season http://www.82games.com/0708/07BOS5A.HTM jump: 79% close: 19% dunk: 1% M. Redd 07-08 season Jumpers 71% Close 29%
<span style="color:#FF0000">KC, please refrain from using insults towards VcTmac24, no matter how much you disagree with him. Doing that does nothing more than instigate him and make matters worse. VcTmac, same goes to you. Stop stirring up drama with smug responses as well.</span>
I can't believe I have to even explain this. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vcTmac24 @ Jan 3 2008, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'll take Redd now because he has become more of an inside player. Also Redd is the better playmaker and is younger</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jan 3 2008, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>More of an inside player? How so? He is as much of a jump-shooter as ever.</div> Where did you say Redd has become more of an inside player THAN RAY ALLEN? You're post clearly implies that Redd has become more of an inside player than in previous years, which is not the case at all. <span style="color:#FF0000">Stop with the insults, please. - CB32</span>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vcTmac24 @ Jan 3 2008, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jan 3 2008, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%">More of an inside player? How so?</span> He is as much of a jump-shooter as ever.</div> please remember better Thanks </div> That statement doesn't remotely mean what you are attempting to claim that it means
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jan 3 2008, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I can't believe I have to even explain this. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vcTmac24 @ Jan 3 2008, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'll take Redd now because he has become more of an inside player. Also Redd is the better playmaker and is younger</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jan 3 2008, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>More of an inside player? How so? He is as much of a jump-shooter as ever.</div> Where did you say Redd has become more of an inside player THAN RAY ALLEN? You're post clearly implies that Redd has become more of an inside player than in previous years, which is not the case at all. Just stop. You are making an ass of yourself. </div> were the attacks necessary? and Redd is more of an inside player than allen. He drives in enough.
You are making up your own argument. I'm arguing something that you said, which is that Redd has become more of an inside player and you are making up your own argument, that Redd is more of an inside player than Allen, arguing against no one. Neither player is an inside player, both are perimeter players, but that doesn't even matter. I'm showing you that Redd is not more of an "inside player" than in previous years. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jan 3 2008, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You are making up your own argument. I'm arguing something that you said, which is that Redd has become more of an inside player and you are making up your own argument, that Redd is more of an inside player than Allen, arguing against no one. Neither player is an inside player, both are perimeter players, but that doesn't even matter. I'm showing you that Redd is not more of an "inside player" than in previous years. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?</div> i just showed you Redd is more of an inside player than Ray. You are just making a fool of yourself and you show me you don't even read the entire post before posting.
KC IS NOT COMPARING REDD TO ALLEN. Damn. How hard is that to understand? All KC is saying is that Redd is not an inside player, and never has been. He hasn't said anything about Ray.
<span style="color:#FF0000">Again, please stop with the personal insults. You're not helping the situation one bit. CB32</span>
