If anyone knows someone in the Blazer oranization they can attest to this. Most front office people are VERY tight lipped. Could be the residual effect from the Patterson/ Nash era. Most front office people I've dealt with seem to think that ALL Blazers are the best at their position and any lop-sided trade is offensive. Also KP walks on water and is working on a deal to fix Global Warming for a couple of 2ND round picks and Vulcan $$$ . OK, so here Is what I came across, FWIW. Bibby Is #1A on KP's list as of this week. Also Josh Smith Is # 1B . Going out for sure is Outlaw, Bayless, Frye and of course RLEC (Which is the only reason ATL is talking with us). From what I gather "Sweeting the pot" meant excluding M.Williams and considering moving Smith. I am not the salary cap expert but I believe Smith is BYC. Which is always difficult to move a player. Originally It was Blake, TO, Frye and RLEC. Draft picks are also included, either 3 or 4 2ND picks or this years First. Also PetKop rights would be going if we land Smith. KP has got the green light to unload assets, etc to land Bibby, Smith. Remember Williams is a RFA so he could be a Rent-A-Player and Smith has a VERY reasonable contract. Two "sources" (lol), not connected to each other, both threw out the name Bibby and Smith so I figured I'd blabber It out to kill the deal or look like a Internet Hero. Since It was getting close to the 19TH I chose to be the Internet Hero. Like I said, Blazer front office people DO NOT discuss rumors, inuendo, happening's and that include's Spouse's believe it or not.
Thanks for the post. I really don't want to trade Bayless, as I don't see Bibby being a big part of our window, but the idea of getting Smith is a great enticement. If it was Sergio instead of Bayless somehow, or even Sergio/Blake, this would be an amazing deal. Even at current stature, getting rid of 3 bench players (although I consider Bayless the future starter), RLEC, and picks for two guys that could start now is still very solid.
PG: Bibby SG: Roy SF: Smith PF: Aldridge C: Oden Could this be the deal (PG/SF) that Quick was talking about? Also, he said that deal with the Eastern team is "dead." Bayless/Outlaw/Raef/Frye/Koponen That's an awful lot and would mean, as the roster would currently stand, Sergio would be our PG of the future. *shuuder*
So are you saying that the orignal trade proposal was something like this Bibby and Marvin Williams for Blake, Outlaw, Frye and Raef? And now the trade is like this Bibby and Josh Smith for Bayless, Outlaw, Frye and Raef? Both scenarios are interesting. Not sure which one I would rather do. I think the first deal is a nice deal without a lot of risk. The 2nd deal could turn out really amazing (Smith could be an awesome defensive force with Oden) or could turn out really horrendous (Bayless blows up in Atlanta, Blazers having no long term quality point guard). If I had to choose, I would say let's roll the dice and go with the latter deal. So, Dufferduck, are you going to be our resident Blazer on this board now? Any other rumors flying around?
I'm actually pretty positive Sergio could somewhat flourish with that roster if we had a different coach.
Btw, the trade works under the cap. Frye/Outlaw/Bayless/Raef/Koponen for Smith/Bibby However, RealGm Trade Checker had this little note on Smith's contract status:
Moving Blake, if healthy, to the second unit would be a huge improvement. Blake Fernandez Batum Smith (?) Przybilla That's a hell of a second unit.
Hm. That'd be interesting because that second unit is really a more run and helter-skelter offense that I don't think Blake could run really well. If we were to acquire Bibby perhaps Blake would be sent out for a backup PF?
Yes, I know. It was more of a veteran backup to give a few minutes and experience trade I was thinking about.
Bibby and Smith would be pretty epic. Smith would be a limited offensive player at the 3, but his defensive capabilities are pretty good. As a shotblocking trio, Smith, Aldridge and Oden would be awesome. Bibby would clearly be a significant upgrade at the PG spot. I'm not excited about him on his own to move significant assets, but getting him AND Josh Smith? Yes, please! I really am excited about Bayless but I'd be willing to move him to get these two guys. Ed O.
Love this trade rumor aside from Bayless being included. Josh Smith would be an instant fan favorite.
switch Bayless w/ Sergio and fine. I wouldn't trade Bayless for Bibby. If we are getting Josh Smith back, i'd rather trade Batum. And i'd also trade Rudy over Bayless, I think they'd take it. THey like Sergio in ATL.. give 'em Sergio and Rudy.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! One confusing part about this: Smith is not a SF. Could he play alongside LaMarcus?
I highly doubt we'll deal Bayless. I love the idea of getting Smith, but not so hyped about Bibby (because of his age, what's his contract like?). The rumor I heard from "sources" was a PG and SF/PF from Phili who share the same first name. That rumored deal also included Bayless.
I guess you have to give up talent to get talent... but I'd really hate to give up Bayless, especially when you consider how old Mike Bibby is. If Smith could fit in with this group, I'd love to have him. Isn't he playing the power forward position over there?
Also, why does Atlanta do this? They're playing great this year and I would imagine that they'd want to keep their roster intact.
