Miles for Hudson Rumors Flying

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  1. jbbKing James

    jbbKing James JBB Banned Member

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    Rumors that are floating around have the Cavaliers sending forward Darius Miles to Minnesota for combo guard Troy Hudson.

    This could give the Cavaliers something they desperately need, outside shooting.
     
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    Not bad of a trade....
    PG-Troy Hudson
    SG-Dajuan Wagner
    SF-LeBron James
    PF-Carlos Boozer
    C-Zydrunas Ilgauskas

    Do i smell playoffs?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ObieCent:</div><div class="quote_post">Not bad of a trade....
    PG-Troy Hudson
    SG-Dajuan Wagner
    SF-LeBron James
    PF-Carlos Boozer
    C-Zydrunas Ilgauskas

    Do i smell playoffs?</div>


    No.

    Who will play defense? Hudson can defend the point, but Wagner will get eaten alive trying to defend 2's.....especially bigger 2's.

    James is a rookie. He plays defense like a rookie(note, this is not saying James sucks, will suck, or always suck......I am just saying that his defense is typical of 99.9% of all rookies).
     
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    I don't see the Wolves doing this trade. I like Miles, but he isn't that great. The only reason I can see the Wolves even considering this is that Hudson can opt out after this season, but other than that, it doesn't make sense. We don't want McLeod backing up the point the whole season, and we are trying to find a big man, we are already stacked at the three.
     
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    Ask Ron Artest what he thinks of Bron's D [​IMG]

    (Bron has outplayed him in the 2 matchups they have had)

    I agree with ya though.

    Hudson would not start here, I like the James/Wagner duo with bringing Troy off the bench.

    I don't see Z being here much longer either. Diop is our future at center.
     
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    I don't really see what the TWolves would get out of this. The security thing is one, but they can always resign Hudson, who has a better chance of winning with the wolves than whoever else would sign him.

    DMiles has got some skills, some promise, but in the end you can't give up THud just for him. Besides, that athletic 6'9", potential filled 2/3 is already sitting on their bench in the form of Ndudi Ebi. Bringing in Miles will only further retard his development.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting starman85:</div><div class="quote_post">Besides, that athletic 6'9", potential filled 2/3 is already sitting on their bench in the form of Ndudi Ebi.</div>

    This is exactly why it won't happen. He was their first 1st round pick in 3 years, and I don't think they will give him even less time to develop. Besides, Ebi has more promise than Miles in my mind. Miles can't even average 10 points a season, while I believe Ebi will get around 15 in the next couple of years.
     
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    O My God Is Darius A Huge Dissapintment Or What
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting J-DUB:</div><div class="quote_post">O My God Is Darius A Huge Dissapintment Or What</div>

    I have not seen you give any details on why you feel the way you do in any of your posts, care to share your thoughts for the first time?
     
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    If this trade does go down it'll benefit both teams well. Especially Cleveland. Troy Hudson is an excellent shooter, and it showed in last year's playoffs against the Lakers. Cleveland will not go to the playoffs, but they will improve their win total from last season.
     
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    IF the Cavs can get this deal through, it will be great for them. Darius Miles IS GARBAGE. This is his fourth season, and he has yet to develop an consistant shot beyond 8 ft. His progression as a player has been slow if any at all. For a guy with so much talent, there has been so little improvement. I realize he is still quite young, but I've given up on him being the superstar he was projected to be.
     
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    I've heard some say that not only does he not have a 'go to' move, like most NBA stars have, he hasn't even tried to develope one. He has a very poor work ethic, something that he couldn't get away with playing alongside KG, who might just beat it into him.

    But again, the deal wouldn't happen because of Ebi, although the Cavs desperately need someone of Huddy's caliber.
     
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    I don't see the Cavs making this deal. As mediocre as he has been Miles' size and talent level are far rarer than undersized shooting guards who can handle and score without doing much else (there are TONS of those in the league). Especially since Miles is still so young and he has played much better since the Lebron James era started. Once again, unless Cleveland gets a very good offer(or makes a mistake) they are better off waiting until the trade deadline when more players are available and more teams are dying to make a deal.

    Edit: p.s. if Diop is the Cavs future at center then you fans better prepare yourselves because it would be downright painful to watch. Not as painful as it would be for Diop though. By minute 25 he'd be breathing so hard he'd inhale his own tongue. When he was healthy he was heaving after just 4-5 trips down the court and then he tore cartiledge in his knee. Not exactly what championships are made of. More like what cheesecake is made of. [​IMG]
     
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    I still think LeBron is a PG, he's a tremendous playmaker with unbelievable court vision. With Wagner at SG, Hudson would be a solid backup for LeBron, but I don't see this deal taking place. Wouldn't make much sense for Minnesota, unless they could pick up another PG from someone else. If it does happen though, maybe they look up Tim Hardaway, he still has some game left. Cavs and playoffs will not happen for at least two more seasons, especially considering Zyd is not fond of defending anyone in the post. They would be better off with the combination of Battie and Diop.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting twolvefan11:</div><div class="quote_post">This is exactly why it won't happen. He was their first 1st round pick in 3 years, and I don't think they will give him even less time to develop. Besides, Ebi has more promise than Miles in my mind. Miles can't even average 10 points a season, while I believe Ebi will get around 15 in the next couple of years.</div>

    Well, Miles is now averaging 10 points per game, thus proving your theory wrong. I totally disagree with that statement. Ebi will likely be a good role player averaging 10 points at most for his career IMO. Lots of potential, but Miles is better.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting the MDE:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, Miles is now averaging 10 points per game, thus proving your theory wrong. I totally disagree with that statement. Ebi will likely be a good role player averaging 10 points at most for his career IMO. Lots of potential, but Miles is better.</div>

    Can't see how you'd make that statement without seeing both Ndudi and Darius when both were rookies. Ndudi hasn't gotten much burn this year since he's with a playoff team, much like JO 8 years ago. Darius has gotten adequate minutes from day one since he was in clipperland, but he's never put it together.

    Many of the same experts who have seen Lebron have seen Ndudi and proclaimed him not only the 2nd best hs student from the class of '03 but a future NBA all-star in the mold of McGrady.

    ps - The fact that Miles is FINALLY averaging 10 ppg in his fourth season in the league, despite having had adequate minutes each of his years, doesn't really speak that highly of Miles.
     
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    Miles will not do anything spectacular in this league until he develops some semblence of a jumper. His shooting is terrible, he can drive and finish, but unless his mid-range jumper and post moves improve he's not much more than a decent sixth man.
     

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