Minutes Per Game?

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  1. Iggy

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    How do you think the minutes will be spread around? Who do you think will have the most/least? Basically, in general how will the MPG of each player look like?


    C: Rasho Nesterovic - 24 MPG
    PF: Chris Bosh - 40 MPG
    SF: Morris Peterson - 37 MPG
    SG: Fred Jones - 28 MPG
    PG: TJ Ford 36 MPG

    Anthony Parker - 24 MPG
    Andrea Bargnani - 22 MPG
    Joey Graham - 18 MPG
    Jose Calderon - 12 MPG
    Jorge Garbajosa - 8 MPG

    Not sure bout calculations but yeah.
     
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    Anybody? Haha I'm trying to keep the Raptors board alive.
     
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    I read it, and I pretty much agreed with the minute allocations. Its a good analysis I think. I think Humphries might get some minutes too, and maybe Garbajosa more than 8 mpg.
     
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    I was doing for a 10 man rotation and I wasn't sure if Humphries would make the rotation. Thanks for the input, feel free to put what you guys think the minute distrubution will look like.
     
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    I think Bosh is still going to play more minutes than that, even with our increased depth. Maybe 42-43 mins. Also, I think Calderon and Ford's minutes are going to be split much more evenly. TJ will still be the definite starter, but I think Calderon will show enough improvement this year to play for 18-20 mins. And finally, I don't think Fred Jones is going to start. With him at the 2-spot, our backcourt is way too short and I think Anthony Parker will be better offensively and defensively.
     
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    What do you think it should look like Chutney, I'm curious? (not trying to sound rude)
     
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    Starters

    C: Rasho Nesterovic (28 mpg)
    PF: Chris Bosh (42 mpg)
    SF: Morris Peterson (37 mpg)
    SG: Anthony Parker (25 mpg)
    PG: TJ Ford (31 mpg)

    Bench

    Fred Jones (18 mpg)
    Jose Calderon (17 mpg)
    Jorge Garbajosa (11 mpg)
    Joey Graham (10 mpg)
    Andrea Bargnani (10 mpg)


    I did the math in my head, so I'm sure I messed up somewhere.
     
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    Hmm... Interesting. I was thinking Bargnani would get Villanueva's minutes (around 25-29). Also I was hoping Fred Jones would get more PT. I also calculated it and there should be 240 minutes spread between them all (48/position) and I added yours together and only got 229 so you still have 11 minutes to give out. Adding the 11 minutes this is how I'd like to see it based on your post.

    Starters

    C: Rasho Nesterovic (28 mpg)
    PF: Chris Bosh (42 mpg)
    SF: Morris Peterson (37 mpg)
    SG: Anthony Parker (25 mpg)
    PG: TJ Ford (31 mpg)

    Bench

    Fred Jones (21 mpg)
    Andrea Bargnani (18 mpg)
    Jose Calderon (17 mpg)
    Jorge Garbajosa (11 mpg)
    Joey Graham (10 mpg)
     
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    Bargnani will eventually be taking Villanueva's minutes, but at this point I think he'll be too raw. We have to remember that, while he's got more potential than CV, he has a lot more to adjust too as well. Until then, Garbajosa can fill the roles of Charlie and Matt Bonner from last season. I want Jones to be the primary bench player this year, too. But, out of all the bench players, he may be the least versatile. If Graham has developed the guard skills (first step, handles, awareness, etc.) like he needed to, then I can really see those minutes at guard being highly contested. If Graham doesn't, then I think we'll see Jones get about how much you put up, and the starters will get more time. The hardest part about projecting the Raps minutes is that the team is so versatile. There's numerous lineups that you could put out on the floor.
     
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    © rasho-20 mpg
    (pf) bosh- 38 mpg
    (sf) parker-27 mpg
    (sg) mo. pete- 34 mpg
    (pg) ford- 30 mpg

    Bench
    caledron-20 mpg
    humpries-23 mpg
    fred jones-20 mpg
    garbosa- 18mpg
    joey g- 15 mpg
    bargnani-4 mpg

    i think humpries will get big time minutes in t.o cause we got no rebounders except him and bosh. moreover, i believe coach mitchell will control ford and parker's minutes in the regular season as a consequence of injury baggage.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">&copy; rasho-20 mpg
    (pf) bosh- 38 mpg
    (sf) parker-27 mpg
    (sg) mo. pete- 34 mpg
    (pg) ford- 30 mpg

    Bench
    caledron-20 mpg
    humpries-23 mpg
    fred jones-20 mpg
    garbosa- 18mpg
    joey g- 15 mpg
    bargnani-4 mpg

    i think humpries will get big time minutes in t.o cause we got no rebounders except him and bosh. moreover, i believe coach mitchell will control ford and parker's minutes in the regular season as a consequence of injury baggage.</div>

    I highly doubt Bosh gets less minutes than he did last year. Expect him to get at LEAST 40 MPG.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chutney:</div><div class="quote_post">Bargnani will eventually be taking Villanueva's minutes, but at this point I think he'll be too raw. We have to remember that, while he's got more potential than CV, he has a lot more to adjust too as well. Until then, Garbajosa can fill the roles of Charlie and Matt Bonner from last season. I want Jones to be the primary bench player this year, too. But, out of all the bench players, he may be the least versatile. If Graham has developed the guard skills (first step, handles, awareness, etc.) like he needed to, then I can really see those minutes at guard being highly contested. If Graham doesn't, then I think we'll see Jones get about how much you put up, and the starters will get more time. The hardest part about projecting the Raps minutes is that the team is so versatile. There's numerous lineups that you could put out on the floor.</div>

    As for you Chutney, I agree with everything you said there. I really want Joey to develop into an agressive scorer, but at the same time I want Fred Jones to get the most minutes possible. Like you said, the team is so versatile and there are numerous line-ups you can put out.


    Starting
    C: Nesterovic
    PF: Bosh
    SF: Peterson
    SG: Parker
    PG: Ford

    Small Lineup
    C: Bosh
    PF: Bargnani
    SF: Parker
    SG: Jones
    PG: Ford

    Big Lineup
    C: Nesterovic
    PF: Bosh
    SF: Garbajosa
    SG: Parker
    PG: Jones

    Tons of lineup possibilities in terms of size. There can also be like banger/grinder type lineups with Garbajosa, Humphries and Sow (if he comes back). Or 3 Point line ups with Bargnani, Peterson, Garbajosa. LOL there can even be a Euro line up with Calderon, Parker, Garbajosa, Bargnani, Nesterovic. That's why the teams record/sucess is unpredictable this year. If they mesh together and develop good team chemistry in the run n' gun system quickly, then this team can go far this year.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Iggy:</div><div class="quote_post">I highly doubt Bosh gets less minutes than he did last year. Expect him to get at LEAST 40 MPG.</div>

    depth, thats why.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">depth, thats why.</div>

    Even with the added depth, I don't see Bosh's minutes decreasing. The new depth will take Villanueva and Bonner's minutes, Bosh's will definately go up.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Iggy:</div><div class="quote_post">Even with the added depth, I don't see Bosh's minutes decreasing. The new depth will take Villanueva and Bonner's minutes, Bosh's will definately go up.</div>

    i don't believe in that, the kid looked exhausted at times last season.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">i don't believe in that, the kid looked exhausted at times last season.</div>

    Well he was all ready averaging like 39 MPG, so 40-42 aint that much more. Also every year he gets stronger, and more experienced every year so it helps him conserve energy. I'm pretty sure he has worked on his conditioning this summer if he actually was exhausted last year.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Iggy:</div><div class="quote_post">Well he was all ready averaging like 39 MPG, so 40-42 aint that much more. Also every year he gets stronger, and more experienced every year so it helps him conserve energy. I'm pretty sure he has worked on his conditioning this summer if he actually was exhausted last year.</div>

    remember he played in the olympics so he's had a lot of basketball in him and they aren't mechanical, he feels tired, lazy and the entire gamut just like us.
     
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    He still has from now til' the season to work on conditioning and stamina if he really needs to.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Iggy:</div><div class="quote_post">He still has from now til' the season to work on conditioning and stamina if he really needs to.</div>

    o.k.
     
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    The added depth is actually the reason why I think he's going to be able to play more minutes.

    Let's face it, if Bosh were able to play 48 minutes last year, he would have been forced to. But, he was the only frontcourt offensive threat, played against/defended bigger competition, and was the focal point of the other team's defense. If this depth forces defenses to play him honestly, I foresee him being able to play for much longer stretches. And, even with such a deep team, he's going to be the focal point of any lineup. I mean, what's the best lineup you can think of without Bosh?

    Rasho
    Garbajosa
    Peterson
    Parker
    Ford

    We may have depth, but Bosh is our 4-spot. Any lineup without him in it will only be required to hold its own until he gets back in.



    btw deception, do you really think Parker will play SF and Peterson will play SG? I figured that since Parker is a better scorer, is not as tall as Peterson, and not as good defensively, that he would hold down the 2.
     
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    The only time he'll get on the bench is just to get a quick breather, or if we're winning by a huge margin near the end of a game. Bosh is in shape and has the ability to stay in the whole game if we needed him too, but we can give him a few minutes for a break.
     

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