In the course of my surfing the web, an Eagles beat writer in Newark, NJ (I think) said that #36 would head south to reunite w/ Feeley. Talk about throwing crap & seeing what sticks. Of course, Miami would have to part with the #2 overall pick minimum. Spielman.Wanny may have been brain dead & pulled the trigger on this but Saban has a few more brain cells. First, The Eagles IMO would not part w/ BW. 2nd, I thought Buckhalter was a FA. 3rd, Why would Miami acquire Westbrook when they already have Lamar Gordon???
First off....who is Lamar Gordon? Second off: I DOUBT Lamar Gordon is as good as Brian Westbrook, or for that matter....i doubt Lamar Gordon is THAT GOOD anyway. I would love to see Brian Westbrook come to Miami. But right now they need offensive lineman, NOT runningbacks.
Gordon is a young back with a lot of potential....he may even become a great featured back....Westbrook is the last guy i want....
lol westbrook is one hell of a back i dont know about you but if i was a dolphins fan i would want him i mean come on after ricky left you guys need all the help you can get.
Beef, how can you in one breath make Gordon sound like the next Jim Brown and then put Westbrook down. Westbrook is a good back for our offense, he's acctually a perfect West Coast RB. I dont know what Offense you guys are gonna run, but trust me you would take Westbrook over Gordon any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
ive never heard of Lamar Gordon until u mentioned him...i keep getting him confused with Lamont Jordan. Now Lamont Jordan is a GOOD runningback. Lamar Gordon played with St. Louis, and a little for Miami but didnt do so well. I say stick with Brian Westbrook, Cedric Benson, and then we HAVE TO get some offensive lineman.
Westbrook is a skat back, hes undersized....he get his yards in space and while that can be an effective compliment to any offense, I firmly believe you are better off with a 220LB battering ram that can be feed the ball 20-25 times a game and control the tempo of the day....nothing against Westbrook and the way the Eagles choose to attack with him, but I want my featured back to be able to mash as well as fly and he cant now, nor will he ever be able to do it....
Depends on your offense really. The Eagles would prefer to pass on a 3rd and 3 not because they have Westbrook, but because they want to pass it 7 or 8 times out of 10. I like Reid and Childress' offense alot, and Westbrook is really the perfect fit for it. He pass blocks well, and he's a great recieving back. Now, like E4L said, it depends on what offense Miami will run. If they were to have a West Coast offense, then Westbrook would work. Other than that I don't think he would fit anywhere else.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBeef)</div><div class='quotemain'>Westbrook is a skat back, hes undersized....he get his yards in space and while that can be an effective compliment to any offense, I firmly believe you are better off with a 220LB battering ram that can be feed the ball 20-25 times a game and control the tempo of the day....nothing against Westbrook and the way the Eagles choose to attack with him, but I want my featured back to be able to mash as well as fly and he cant now, nor will he ever be able to do it....</div> Let's see Westbrook: 5'10" 205 lbs Marshal Faulk: 5"10' 211 lbs Emmitt Smith: 5'10" 216 lbs Barry Sanders: 5'8" 200 lbs I can go on and on. Westbrook is NOT undersized, there I just listed 3 great RB's in comparable size, and most would consider them in the top 10. I guess I just got all beefy on you, huh??
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBeef)</div><div class='quotemain'>Westbrook is a skat back, hes undersized....he get his yards in space and while that can be an effective compliment to any offense, I firmly believe you are better off with a 220LB battering ram that can be feed the ball 20-25 times a game and control the tempo of the day....nothing against Westbrook and the way the Eagles choose to attack with him, but I want my featured back to be able to mash as well as fly and he cant now, nor will he ever be able to do it....</div> Let's see Westbrook: 5'10" 205 lbs Marshal Faulk: 5"10' 211 lbs Emmitt Smith: 5'10" 216 lbs Barry Sanders: 5'8" 200 lbs I can go on and on. Westbrook is NOT undersized, there I just listed 3 great RB's in comparable size, and most would consider them in the top 10. I guess I just got all beefy on you, huh??</div> How bout this....he is just not tough and he is undersized because they easily exaggerate on his size....he is 180 pounds tops and 5'10" is stretching it....he doesn't even look as big as marshall never mind emmitt. He is Tiny and not tough between the tackles...he could never handle 300 carries the way those guys did. oh and LOL for mentioning those backs with westbrooke....even if to compare size....he doesn't belong in the same sentence as any of those guys.
Have you ever seen Brian Westbrook??? He's not that small, he's pretty muscular. Also, correct me If I am mistaken, but didnt he set alltime college record for most combined yards by an RB??? Sure he went to Villanova, but this shows that he can carry the load. We dont know what he can do, cause he never had a chance to carry the ball that much. Look at Tiki Barber (5'10" 200 lbs), nobody thought he could carry the load, and look at him now.
For the record, I wouldnt want Barry either, he couldnt run it up in there to get a yard....his style was fantastic to watch, just not condusive to consistent winning....His records at 'Nova came against 1AA competition, much smaller, slower players....Comparing Westbrook to those backs is lunacy anyway, those are Hall of Fame back, Westbrook is nothing more than a nice complimentary player, he cant carry the load and the Eagles are smart enough to know it....Further, it is my preference to have a bigger, stronger back that can pound away 25 times and break the will of an opponent....ill list the starters around the league that are capable of doing this, and i would prefer every one of them to Westbrook if im filling a featured role: W.McGahee C.Dillon C.Martin R. Johnson J.Bettis C.Brown J.Lewis D.Davis E.james F.Taylor P.Holmes L.Tomlinson j.Jones C.portis K.Jones A.Green S.Davis D.McAllister K.Barlow S. Alexander Those are just the starters, here are some back ups that better suited for the NFL grind.... A. Thomas L.Jordan L.Suggs T.Henry O.smith it goes on forever....
Beef...Beef...Beef I will not argue with you whether Westbrook can be a starter or cant he, he had 1500 total yards in 13 games this season, I think that proves enough. You tried to point out that he was not big enough for the grind, incase you have not noticed Eagles do not run up the middle very often, it's just not their style. Westbrook is very quick, and he can get the yards. Case in point, look at Tiki Barber, I bet before he became a full time starter you had doubts about him. I'll be honest with you, I love a back that can grind the tough yard (ala Stephen Davis) however, thats not what we need for our offense, that's Andy Reid's choice. He need a quick RB that can catch the ball out of the backfield, and run the toss play. It is what it is. Some players are more suited for some teams. But I do think that you do not give Westbrook enough credit. He's a good player, and given more touches I think he had become the third player ever to go for 1000/1000 plateau.
I want RBs who run the ball, Ill use WRs to catch the ball....all those catches for a RB arent a good thing, it means your offense lacks legitimate recieving threats....to some extent, RBs should be used for screens and swing passes(see Patriots in the Super Bowl), but if you have to consistently flex them out(as the Eagles have to do) it means you lack passing threats....best advice for the Eagles? Sign Alexander, use westbrook in limited role to take advantage of mismatches, get a real #2 WR and pray McNabb doesnt choke away another Super Bowl....
Personally, I like Westbrook & think he's ideal for Philly's scheme. Gordon could be ideal for what Miami is trying to accomplish. His style is a hybrid he has some speed w/ decent pass catching ability (you kind have to in order to play for Martz) & he was a power back in College (granted N Dakota St isn't the big time). Lets be honest; what team doesn't embellish on the measurements of their players? For example. the Charlotte Hornets back in the day listed Muggsy Bogues as 5'5". Right!!? It would not suprise me if Zach Thomas is not 5'10" as listed.
Zach Thomas is only 5'10? Then again he is a linebacker, and small linebackers are a good thing...they can get around the tall offensive line easier. By the way i was just checking the depth chart for Miami and i saw Bryan Robinson and Jamar Martin as defensive tackle and fullback. Ive never heard of these guys. What happened to Rob Konrad? What happened to Jamie Nails?
Konrad has a $1mil+cap number or the upcoming year and will likely be released....I would guess he will end up in NE....Nails was not re-signed last season and spent the year out of football....
You think we'll sign Konrad....intresting but I'm not sure I want that over paid hurtbox on my team...though if he drinks the cool aid maybe he could be usefull....and westbrooke is now where near the size of Tiki....did you see him and his brother being interviewed on NFL Access at the probowl...Tiki's arms and chest are huge....westbrooke is more the size of Ronde. Oh and obviously westbrooke is muscular....what NFL skill position player isn't....he just isn't as think in the upper body as all these other running backs listed at the same size and his legs are skinny as well.... which is why I know they embelish his size...and probably by 20 to even 30 pounds.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'>You think we'll sign Konrad....intresting but I'm not sure I want that over paid hurtbox on my team...though if he drinks the cool aid maybe he could be usefull....and westbrooke is now where near the size of Tiki....did you see him and his brother being interviewed on NFL Access at the probowl...Tiki's arms and chest are huge....westbrooke is more the size of Ronde. Oh and obviously westbrooke is muscular....what NFL skill position player isn't....he just isn't as think in the upper body as all these other running backs listed at the same size and his legs are skinny as well.... which is why I know they embelish his size...and probably by 20 to even 30 pounds.</div> Look, if there is one thing E4L has taught me, is the eagles players are the best at every position. They have never been outplayed, in any game ever, and you should be jealous as hell that they have them on thier team, and you dont. I realize some might question this in light of Mcnabb's choking, Westbrook wearing down, TO bitching out his own teammates on the sideline, Lito getting burned repeatedly only to be bailed out by good pressure. These things can be easily explained. Mcnabb didnt choke, it was the rest of the teams fault(Note: you should still be jealous of players that let mcnabb down.) Westbrook doesnt wear down, just cuz his yards drop off in any game after having a lot of carries in the previous 2, TO was not complaining and being a bad teammate, he was pumping up Mcnabb to calm him down, and finally Lito knew in advance those were going to be poorly thrown balls, it was not bad coverage. So in closing, Eagles players rule, every other player in the league sux, and could never out preform an eagle player at the same position, and that is why eagles have won every super bowl since Mcnabb joined the league. NOTE: previous statement is in contradiction to fact to placate Eagles4Life.
