I would just like to see who everyone thinks is the most over-rated player in the league. My vote definately goes to A.I. I know that this opinion won't be popular, but there is evidence to back it up. While he is rock hard, and leaves everything on the court, his numbers are terrible. I know that he has been hurt this year, but even in previous years, take a look: this year he is shooting .387 from the field and .417 for his career he leads the league in turnovers a game at 4.35 and 2nd in the league with 27 field goal attempts per game if he shoots so badly from the floor, why does he take so many shots?
I know what you're saying by him shooting so much. My arms hurt sometimes when I watch him. But I don't think he's overrated. U know who is overrated? Calvin Booth making 5.6 mil and Lebron makes 4 mil. Watz up wit dat?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 30 standing ver:</div><div class="quote_post">I know what you're saying by him shooting so much. My arms hurt sometimes when I watch him. But I don't think he's overrated. U know who is overrated? Calvin Booth making 5.6 mil and Lebron makes 4 mil. Watz up wit dat?</div> Well LeBron is under a rookie contract, everyone goes through that when they come into the league so I wouldn't say he's underrated just because of his pay. Calvin Booth had high expectations after a short stunt with the Mavericks and did look like he had a nice career ahead of him, and the Sonics did what was necessary to get the big man. I wouldn't really rate an overpaid player as a "overrated" because most of those contracts were signed way before injuries and the players just aging. Overrated to me are guys like Barbosa, who has gotten a lot more talk than he really should have this season IMO. I know it was a tough assignment to come in and now have to be the starting PG, but everyone talked about him being the future PG for them and all that, and that to me seemed rediculous. As we see now his numbers still aren't great and as I've said since the talk of him first started, in any other team he would be a backup, and even 3rd string on some teams. To me that is overrated.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 30 standing ver:</div><div class="quote_post">I know what you're saying by him shooting so much. My arms hurt sometimes when I watch him. But I don't think he's overrated. U know who is overrated? Calvin Booth making 5.6 mil and Lebron makes 4 mil. Watz up wit dat?</div> The fact that LeBron is on a rookie deal may have something to do with that As with the Booth deal, Seattle needed an inside presence and Booth was actually seen as a promising player at that time. However, I don't think anyone really rates him, so I wouldn't call him overrated.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Phreeze:</div><div class="quote_post">Well LeBron is under a rookie contract, everyone goes through that when they come into the league so I wouldn't say he's underrated just because of his pay. Calvin Booth had high expectations after a short stunt with the Mavericks and did look like he had a nice career ahead of him, and the Sonics did what was necessary to get the big man. I wouldn't really rate an overpaid player as a "overrated" because most of those contracts were signed way before injuries and the players just aging. Overrated to me are guys like Barbosa, who has gotten a lot more talk than he really should have this season IMO. I know it was a tough assignment to come in and now have to be the starting PG, but everyone talked about him being the future PG for them and all that, and that to me seemed rediculous. As we see now his numbers still aren't great and as I've said since the talk of him first started, in any other team he would be a backup, and even 3rd string on some teams. To me that is overrated.</div> Yeah I pretty much figured that when I seen his pay. I finally looked at the list that had all their pays, but I still was just doing a comparison. I seen Calvin have good games, but I knew just by looking at him who never amount to being a solid player. Don't mean to judge a book by it's cover, but man if u were to see him it's kinda hard not to underestimate him. I never meant it to seem like Lebron was underrated, he got the big shoe contract so yeah. I could pick a couple high draft picks like Olowokandi. I know he was suppose to be like a project, to progress. But dag, it looks like he never will.
This probably isn't going to be a popular opinion, but I believe Carmelo Anthony is overrated (and he likely overrates himself, too).
Here's two guys that I believe are extremely overrated: 2. Steve Francis (17 ppg, 6 asts, 5 rebs.) Many regard Francis as a top 3 point guard, I simply believe that's absurd. He's not a pure point guard, he doesn't make good decisions (2nd in total turnovers), he takes WAY too many shots for a point, and he doesn't pass nearly as well as the elite point guards. He's not a shooting guard either, he only averages 17 points per game which would defintely decrease if he tried playing against off guards. When you have players like Steve Nash, Stephon Marbury, Jason Kidd, and Sam Cassell who can score and pass the ball extremly well, how can he even be considered in the top 3? 1. Andrei Kirilenko (16.5 ppg and 8 rebs) Now I fully understand he's a good defensive player, he can get out and play the passing lanes and he can block shots, but this guy is an ALL STAR? This guy is better than Elton Brand? Zach Randolph? Chris Webber? Antoine Walker? I personally don't believe so. Looking at the statistics I don't understand how this guy is considered an allstar, 16 points and 8 rebounds isn't that rare, I believe Antawn Jamison is putting up similar numbers off the bench for Dallas. Not to mention his team is built around him, he's able to get the shots, he's able to get the touches, and he's the only "star" on his team. So when you consider those numbers I don't think they're nearly as impressive as the aforementioned talent. Put Webber or Brand on a Utah instead of Andrei, let them get all the touches and all the shots and their numbers would be out of this world.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James X3:</div><div class="quote_post">Here's two guys that I believe are extremely overrated: 2. Steve Francis (17 ppg, 6 asts, 5 rebs.) Many regard Francis as a top 3 point guard, I simply believe that's absurd. He's not a pure point guard, he doesn't make good decisions (2nd in total turnovers), he takes WAY too many shots for a point, and he doesn't pass nearly as well as the elite point guards. He's not a shooting guard either, he only averages 17 points per game which would defintely decrease if he tried playing against off guards. When you have players like Steve Nash, Stephon Marbury, Jason Kidd, and Sam Cassell who can score and pass the ball extremly well, how can he even be considered in the top 3? 1. Andrei Kirilenko (16.5 ppg and 8 rebs) Now I fully understand he's a good defensive player, he can get out and play the passing lanes and he can block shots, but this guy is an ALL STAR? This guy is better than Elton Brand? Zach Randolph? Chris Webber? Antoine Walker? I personally don't believe so. Looking at the statistics I don't understand how this guy is considered an allstar, 16 points and 8 rebounds isn't that rare, I believe Antawn Jamison is putting up similar numbers off the bench for Dallas. Not to mention his team is built around him, he's able to get the shots, he's able to get the touches, and he's the only "star" on his team. So when you consider those numbers I don't think they're nearly as impressive as the aforementioned talent. Put Webber or Brand on a Utah instead of Andrei, let them get all the touches and all the shots and their numbers would be out of this world.</div> I agree with that VERY much..Both of them are overated...Andrei Kirilenk...Gets too much attention..When their are so much more better players..Or players with his stats..Like..SAR..Shareef Abdur Rahim is gettign 18 and 8 of the BENCH..So why is he not an all star?...
Kirilenko is an amazing plaer, is probably more underrated than he is overrated IMO. There are not many players that can truly influence the result of a game without scoring, AK is one of those guys. The 16 and 8 are common I agree, but the 3 blocks and 2 steals a game aren't. Add to the fact he's achieved 5x5's on more than one occasion (even KG has never done that) and is almost on track to record the first season of 15/8/3/3/2 since Hakeem and Admiral, who both only achieved that once. People have given Jerry Sloan a lot of credit for getting the Jazz in contention, especially losing Harpring, but this young man from Russia has had a lot to do with their position. Not overrated at all IMO, and well deserving of that All Star spot.
The most overrated player in my eyes is Cory Maggette. He is all the Clippers have right now...the star players for the Clippers are Richardson and Brand if u ask me. Maggette is a hothead...and i don't respect his game...he started a fight with Kenyon...well i dunno if he started it but it was out of frustration...
Imo Allan Houston is,17.5 ppg,2.90 rpg and 2.4 apg over his career,this guy has been an 2 time all-star and makes more money than Kobe if Im not mistaken.I think this guy would've got his ass traded out of Big Apple a long time ago but his big contract makes him hard to trade,good luck NY fans.
I would say Antoine Walker. The first half of the season he was ok but now and in the past years he?s just an average player.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King James X3:</div><div class="quote_post">Here's two guys that I believe are extremely overrated: 2. Steve Francis (17 ppg, 6 asts, 5 rebs.) Many regard Francis as a top 3 point guard, I simply believe that's absurd. He's not a pure point guard, he doesn't make good decisions (2nd in total turnovers), he takes WAY too many shots for a point, and he doesn't pass nearly as well as the elite point guards. He's not a shooting guard either, he only averages 17 points per game which would defintely decrease if he tried playing against off guards. When you have players like Steve Nash, Stephon Marbury, Jason Kidd, and Sam Cassell who can score and pass the ball extremly well, how can he even be considered in the top 3?</div>Very true.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Martin:</div><div class="quote_post">Imo Allan Houston is,17.5 ppg,2.90 rpg and 2.4 apg over his career,this guy has been an 2 time all-star and makes more money than Kobe if Im not mistaken.I think this guy would've got his ass traded out of Big Apple a long time ago but his big contract makes him hard to trade,good luck NY fans. </div> Someone had to say it, I guess :/. Don't forget that it was that muppet Layden who gave him that $100 million contract.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">if he shoots so badly from the floor, why does he take so many shots?</div> If he dosent take so many shots. How do you expect him to get to the free throw line? Yeah you already stated that he's injured and what not. But how do you expect his game to stay at the same level, when he hasnt even played more than 10 games in a row this season. He's constantly getting injured, and you cant stay on top of your game if you keep getting injured. This season he's missed the most games in his carrer so thats telling you that this season is being to nice to him. So I dont think you can say's he's overated. But I'll admit that his game went down just a VERY LITTLE since his MVP season, but he still isnt overated. Here are some players that I think is overated: 1. Steve Francis 2. Andrei Kirilenko 3. Antoine Walker 4. Allen Houston 5. Peja Stojakovic I think most of you guys might disagree with me putting Peja on that list. But honestly, if you look at Peja's game. All he could do is shoot. He cant pass. At his height he should be grabbing more boards. He could be a MUCH better defender. And he cant even make a lay-up. Some people might think that Peja should get MVP. But Peja is no lMVP nor is he a leader. He's just surrounded with a bunch of talented guys. Like Bibby, Brad Miller, Jackson etc... The reason why everyone is giving him so much credit is because of his deadly shot, leads his team in PPG and his team has a GREAT record. Thats it. Im a Peja fan. And he's one of my Top 5 favorite players. But he is overated IMO.
my vote for overrated: Michael Olowokandi. wasn't this supposed to be his breakout season? granted he was hurt, but he hasn't done anything to lead me to believe he'll be anything more than a mediocre center.
I don't understand how anyone can say that Kirilenko is overrated. He's underrated because no one realizes the impact he makes at the defensive end. For anyone to say that he's overrated just because he's averaging "only" 16 ppg shows how much the L has changed that no one recognizes the importance of defense and all-around play; they only care about scoring.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting I3:</div><div class="quote_post">I think most of you guys might disagree with me putting Peja on that list. But honestly, if you look at Peja's game. All he could do is shoot. He cant pass. At his height he should be grabbing more boards. He could be a MUCH better defender. And he cant even make a lay-up. Some people might think that Peja should get MVP. But Peja is no lMVP nor is he a leader. He's just surrounded with a bunch of talented guys. Like Bibby, Brad Miller, Jackson etc... The reason why everyone is giving him so much credit is because of his deadly shot, leads his team in PPG and his team has a GREAT record. Thats it. Im a Peja fan. And he's one of my Top 5 favorite players. But he is overated IMO.</div> i've got to disagree with Peja. he's averaging 25 points and 6 boards a game. while shooting 48% FG and 44% three pointers. those are amazing numbers. i've seen him get lots of easy buckets and layups within the King's offense. even if he does rely on his outside shot, how can you blame him? he's shooting a superb percentage. i don't think he should get the MVP award, but i wouldn't call him overrated.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting iamme:</div><div class="quote_post">i've got to disagree with Peja. he's averaging 25 points and 6 boards a game. while shooting 48% FG and 44% three pointers. those are amazing numbers. i've seen him get lots of easy buckets and layups within the King's offense. even if he does rely on his outside shot, how can you blame him? he's shooting a superb percentage. i don't think he should get the MVP award, but i wouldn't call him overrated.</div> I see what your trying to say. But if Peja is constantly getting double teamed, which isnt possible because opposing teams arent going to leave Bibby, Doug and C-Webb get open looks. But if someone or anyone can keep contant defensive pressure on Peja. I think he's done for. He cant break down the D, he cant take anyone off the dribble etc..Take Pierce for example. He's one of leagues best shooters but now that he's alone and teams double team him ALL DAY he is now shooting his carrer low. If Peja was contantly getting double teamed the way AI, Tmac and Pierce is getting double teamed. I still believe he would still be the league best shooter. But his value might decrease a little...since making jumpshots is all he could do.
I think the baby Bulls duo Tyson Chandler and Eddy Curry are two of the most overrated players in the League. Of the two, the one that has shown the most promise since last season is Eddy. But just take a look at his numbers this season (14.3 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 1.12 bpg) there's some improvement but they don't suggest a breakout improvement from last (10.5 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 0.77 bpg). And this is supposed to be his breakout year. I think Eddy's got what it takes to be an All Star, the sad thing is he doesn't work hard and doesn't play mean on the defensive end and especially rebounding. As for Tyson, he so far hasn't lived up to one of the Bulls' project franchise cornerstones. His draft class mate Kwame Brown is showing more promise this season (30 pts and 19 rbds vs. Kings) than Tyson has all his career. And Kwame had a certain young (and old) player killer named Michael Jordan. Tyson had two Jerrys. Given the pressure situation, Tyson should flourish faster than Kwame ever but he never does.
