Most untradeable player....

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  1. ming-dynasty

    ming-dynasty JBB JustBBall Member

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    I think every player in this league is tradeable given the right offer. But if I were to choose, I'd say it would have to be Lebron James. From a winning and a financial stand point, the Cavs would have to be mad to trade him.

    Next to Lebron would have to be Grant Hill. I don't think any team would be willing to pick up his contract.

    Who do you feel is the most untradeable player in the league?
     
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    KG... it'd be crazy for Minnesota to trade him simply because they wouldn't win games without him (he is their franchise), and people pay to see him play. It'd be hard for another team to take him anyways becuse of his large contract.
     
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    KG, tim duncan, shaq, kobe

    lebron james is untradeable due to his marketing value

    and jordan in any team any age would be untradeable
     
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    Shaq, easily. He is the difference maker on that team and the Lakers have shown that they cannot win very easily without him.
     
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    I really don't think there is a most-untradeable player in the league right now. There are a few players who I think are "untradeable" however there isn't any that are more untradeable to others.

    For one I think SHAQ is tradeable. It likely would never happen however considering his age and his health if offered a gargantuan deal the Lakers could trade the big fella away.

    Here are my "untradeable" players:

    1. Yao Ming - He is turning into a dominant big man in the league in only his 2nd year. The Rockets organization has big plans and they revolve around him. He is not going anywhere, period.

    2. Lebron James - He might be the most hyped up player ever however he brings in the money and crowds wherever he goes. His athletic ability and basketball IQ allow him to become a truly "special" player in the league if he continues on the path he is right now.

    3. Tim Duncan - He is the best player in the league. Mr. Fundamental the he wins games and championships. Everyone loves a winner and he is one in every sense.

    4. Kevin Garnett - He is the most versatile player in the league and is the heart and soul of the Wolves organization. He is a dominant player and I cannot see him being traded to any team for anyone really.
     
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    No one can trade the wonder kid LBJ. LeBron James can take any one he wants in the NBA and can put up unreal #'s in any given game. KG is the wolves the guys a freak he can ball. IF the Magic trade T-Mac i honestly think that they will not even win one game in the season, considerin with him this season theyve only won 19 so far and theirs like what 6-7 games left in the season. Tim Duncan=MVP 2 years in a row.

    Their is just some of the players, well all of the ones i can remember right now.
     
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    Lebron untradeable? I would rather have Melo, in three years he will lead the NBA in scoring. KG is untradeable, same with Tim Duncan. Kobe is tradeable, If I were the Lakers I would have traded Kobe during the off-season, there is no garuntee he will be returning to them. Maybe for T-Mac, show him what it's like to win.
     
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    the chicago bulls is the most untradable player in the league right now, the bulls can put up big points and good assists, the bulls also is the most versatile player with unreal dunks, now you must think i'm on crack, i was j/k i know they are a team

    i hate to say it, but shaq is the most untradeable player, i don't like shaq but no one can stop him downlow and he is probably going to retire as a laker, i liked him in orlando, penny and shaq were a cool combo
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AirJordan:</div><div class="quote_post">Lebron untradeable? I would rather have Melo, in three years he will lead the NBA in scoring. KG is untradeable, same with Tim Duncan. Kobe is tradeable, If I were the Lakers I would have traded Kobe during the off-season, there is no garuntee he will be returning to them. Maybe for T-Mac, show him what it's like to win.</div>

    While skill wise they're almost the same, some people say Melo's game is more diversed and some people still say LeBron's still better than Melo (including me, slightly!), marketing wise I believe LBJ can draw ten times more crowd than Melo, at least for now... so it'd be "what the..?" if the Cavs trade him straight up for Melo... no way. While Denver publicly may not admit to wanting LeBron now (to not hurt Melo), given a realistic chance at it, they'd do this trade.

    KG, TD are also untradable. But I don't think the Lakers should have traded Kobe Bryant for Tracy McGrady in the off-season. First, the Lakers fall in love too much with Kobe they can't look for anybody else, maybe including Shaq. Second, Kobe plays with heart, no matter how injured he is he somehow overcomes the pain and plays through it. Remember Kobe was initially expected to be out for one month, but he came back about 3.5 weeks faster and along the way helped the Lakers win games (including vs. Bulls and Magic). TMac might play with heart too but a lot has been said that he is not a hard worker so it's unlikely a sign of showing us he plays with heart, that's why he only plays off his incredible talent. Kobe also plays off talent + heart + hardwork... that's a scary combination. Third, the Lakers wouldn't have traded Kobe Bryant because they want to keep him, it's that simple. Should Kobe walk away after this season's over it's another story because it's Kobe's choice, the Lakers have no control over that, that's the only chance they have at keeping Kobe. All the Lakers can do is wine and dine Kobe and Vannessa and little Natalia and show him the bigger-than-anywhere-else millions and convince him why he should stay with the Lakers. If Kobe walks away and signs with another team, well I believe the Lakers' attitude will be, "well, life goes on... we tried to do everything we could to keep him, we failed our only option at doing this" :bigthumbu

    Edit: On the second thought, Kobe is tradable, given that he agrees to do a sign and trade, let's say to the Magic for TMac. Kobe can say all he wants about money not being the issue, but $144mil-7years and $97mil-7years sound too much different. I am convinced Kobe will re-sign with the Lakers, it's already HIS team this season.
     
  10. og15

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    The only untradable players in the league right now are:

    Shaq, Duncan, KG, Lebron (maybe), Melo (maybe), Amare (maybe), and Yao that is all, no one else.
     
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    I wouldn't label Shaq as untradeable just yet. Considering his age and health issues, I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers trade him. It would have to be one heck of a deal since Shaq can still dominate, but his best days are still behind him so a trade would not be out of the question.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ming-dynasty:</div><div class="quote_post">I wouldn't label Shaq as untradeable just yet. Considering his age and health issues, I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers trade him. It would have to be one heck of a deal since Shaq can still dominate, but his best days are still behind him so a trade would not be out of the question.</div>

    Not that I would agree or disagree with the idea of trading him, but I'l guarantee you that the Lakers will not trade Shaq unless he requested to be traded.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">The only untradable players in the league right now are:

    Shaq, Duncan, KG, Lebron (maybe), Melo (maybe), Amare (maybe), and Yao that is all, no one else.</div>


    everyone is tradeable, its a business, you never know what could happen

    DID anyone think that jordan would be playing anywhere besides the bulls? i mean he wasnt traded OBVIOUSLY, but like i said, ANYTHING is possible
     
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    True, but for example the Rockets what the sense it trading Yao? I don't care if they gave me 3 pretty good players its still stupid.
    KG and Duncan right now aren't going anywhere. Melo, Lebron and Amare can be traded but you gota give them something good, and Shaq because he's getting older, but you gotta fork something (a lot) over for that.
     
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    Garnett
    Shaq
    Yao
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AirJordan:</div><div class="quote_post">Lebron untradeable? I would rather have Melo, in three years he will lead the NBA in scoring. KG is untradeable, same with Tim Duncan. Kobe is tradeable, If I were the Lakers I would have traded Kobe during the off-season, there is no garuntee he will be returning to them. Maybe for T-Mac, show him what it's like to win.</div>
    Who knows if melo will be better? THats not the point. The cavs would be stupid to trade someone like Lebron, cause he brings hype, respectability, fans, and perhaps some free agents to a place where none of that existed in the past.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Krazygreen:</div><div class="quote_post">everyone is tradeable, its a business, you never know what could happen

    DID anyone think that jordan would be playing anywhere besides the bulls? i mean he wasnt traded OBVIOUSLY, but like i said, ANYTHING is possible</div>

    Yep, it sure is a business - which is why LeBron, Duncan and Garnett will never, ever, ever, ever, ever (get the idea?) be traded. I would bet any amount of money on it. Why? Because these guys are the established stars for their respective ball clubs, and even bringing in someone like Kobe would risk losing the already established marketing value of these stars. Businesses don't take insane risks like that. I doubt Gordon Gund would even be partial to a LBJ + filler for the Lakers 4 future Hall-of-Famers he's that imbedded in the Cleveland Cavs franchise.

    LeBron will never be traded from the Cavs unless he leaves as a free agent.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting RiverspoonJones:</div><div class="quote_post">Yep, it sure is a business - which is why LeBron, Duncan and Garnett will never, ever, ever, ever, ever (get the idea?) be traded. I would bet any amount of money on it. Why? Because these guys are the established stars for their respective ball clubs, and even bringing in someone like Kobe would risk losing the already established marketing value of these stars. Businesses don't take insane risks like that. I doubt Gordon Gund would even be partial to a LBJ + filler for the Lakers 4 future Hall-of-Famers he's that imbedded in the Cleveland Cavs franchise.

    LeBron will never be traded from the Cavs unless he leaves as a free agent.</div>


    BS its a business, if he gets on the bad side of the owners/gm's/front office, they have the power to ship him the hell out of there if wanted..of course Lebron has power over what coach he wants, what players he wants, but when it comes to the business aspect of it, he has no say to the bigs, no player did, with the exception of michael jordan.

    Do i believe that will ever happen? No...so dont argue with me about it.
     
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    I highly doubt LeBron will ever be on the bad side of the owners/gm's/front office as you say. Firstly, he is a very grounded kid... and secondly, the club hierachy will be pandering to his every need as long as he keeps bringing home the bacon. Further, if you think LeBron doesn't have pull with the front office already given his status as the next big thing, you're kidding yourself.

    Sure, they've got the power to ship him out of Cleveland, and could pretty much command any price they would want. In doing so however, they would alienate their entire fan base who have waited years for some like LBJ to land in Cleveland. He's the hometown hero, potential GOAT... there is absolutely zero likelihood that he will be traded from Cleveland in his career unless he becomes a drug addict or something ridiculous like that.
     
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    Did I not state that I dont believe this will EVER occur and to please not argue with me about it? I believe you man, he won't get traded obviously, but its an incorrect assumption to say that its IMPOSSIBLE, if our president could get impeached, and Grey Davis could lose his job to the Terminator, then Lebron james is capable of being traded.
     

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