<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The New York Knicks and Raptors are said to be talking about swapping little-used forwards Shandon Anderson and Lamond Murray. </div> also from teh same article... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Little-used forward Jerome Moiso reportedly has been told by Raptors management that he will be moved as soon as possible. Moiso, who was signed as a free agent last summer, has played in all of 12 games this season and has been rotting on the bench. He hasn't seen action since Dec. 12 in Boston.</div> Article
siick... Shandon Andersen would be a plus for the Raps... Deal Murray!! btw, KO should be giving Moiso more time and let him have another chance before they do something.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting VinsanityMK:</div><div class="quote_post">siick... Shandon Andersen would be a plus for the Raps... Deal Murray!! btw, KO should be giving Moiso more time and let him have another chance before they do something.</div> Exactly. I don't think Moiso has been given a chance by KO. During games he looks very active when he plays grabbing offesive boards and defending...he is very deep in KO's dog house so it looks like he's a goner
Moiso could very well be the solid center that they need, if only given the minutes. The Raptors seem to have forgotten Moiso's performance in the playoffs last year, which should have raised his stock considerably. The forwards' trade works out great. It allows Isiah to free some cap room soon, and has the potential to do the same for the Raptors, since they could probably package Anderson with Moiso and trade away.
Moiso Sucks. If he was any good then why did we get Archibald? If he was good he would get playing time. When hes on the floor he looks lost. He has talent but hes useless. He has a horrible shot too.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kid Canada:</div><div class="quote_post">Moiso Sucks. If he was any good then why did we get Archibald? If he was good he would get playing time. When hes on the floor he looks lost. He has talent but hes useless. He has a horrible shot too.</div> I just think that you have to give him time to develope. He has the talent to succeed, he just needs the right situation. I'm not saying he's an amazing player, if we can get something good for him then do it, but don't just give up on him(Raptors are looking at waiving him, not trading him)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kid Canada:</div><div class="quote_post">Moiso Sucks. If he was any good then why did we get Archibald? If he was good he would get playing time. When hes on the floor he looks lost. He has talent but hes useless. He has a horrible shot too.</div> Some players just don't get recognized sometimes. For example, Ben Wallace was nothing special, as everyone thought and was never drafted. He was signed to be a backup in Orlando, and now is the 2nd in the all-star balloting. Ron Murray, who hardly played at all last year, all of a suddenly started getting huge playing time this year and has played great up until recently. Some players get discovered late. I don't know much at all about Moiso, but you never know when some guy might pop out of no where.
Man, adding Murray would give the Knicks only more offensive firepower off the bench...he'd make a nice sixth man and another outside shooter...Anderson would give the Raptors defense and a slasher...a good deal for both teams...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kid Canada:</div><div class="quote_post">Moiso Sucks. If he was any good then why did we get Archibald? If he was good he would get playing time. When hes on the floor he looks lost. He has talent but hes useless. He has a horrible shot too.</div> No way. I would put in down to the coaching staff misusing him. Moiso may never be an alll-star, but he can easily be a solid contributor if given the minutes.
no way...moiso is garbage! he has been given PLENTY of opportunities, he was even given a start, and he squandered those opportunities. he has a lazy work ethic, and when he's in games, he makes tons of mistakes. a good player doesnt have a good excuse, a good player has good production, moiso hasnt produced for us. hes a liability on the court. how can you give time, when your battling in games? the raps cant afford his bumbling screw-ups. we need production <div class="quote_poster">Quoting HoustonHoopa33:</div><div class="quote_post">Man, adding Murray would give the Knicks only more offensive firepower off the bench...he'd make a nice sixth man and another outside shooter</div> thats what you think
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">no way...moiso is garbage! he has been given PLENTY of opportunities, he was even given a start, and he squandered those opportunities. he has a lazy work ethic, and when he's in games, he makes tons of mistakes. a good player doesnt have a good excuse, a good player has good production, moiso hasnt produced for us. hes a liability on the court. how can you give time, when your battling in games? the raps cant afford his bumbling screw-ups. we need production </div> You need to give him time, if he had success in New Orleans then he could have a chance with KO if he's given time. You can't just give up on someone halfway into the season after signing him, especially when he has potential to succeed. I don't hear him making any excuses, he's just saying when the coach plays him he'll be ready to play.
I wanted the Twolves to sign Moiso this summer so I feel he would be welcome in Minnesota if we had a spot for him.
And you don't think that that just might be because Kevin O'Neal is misusing him? A guy with that much potential doesn't just 'suck' all of a sudden. I can't speak to his work ethic, but i'm sure there's a way to motivate a guy like that, and that's the coach's job.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting starman85:</div><div class="quote_post">And you don't think that that just might be because Kevin O'Neal is misusing him? A guy with that much potential doesn't just 'suck' all of a sudden. I can't speak to his work ethic, but i'm sure there's a way to motivate a guy like that, and that's the coach's job.</div>He must be bad if we just get Archibald and he gets minutes.
I don't think Moiso is a bad player, I just don't think KO likes what he's seen from him this year. Maybe he's not getting off the bench in Toronto because he gives up too many points on the defensive end, and considering the Raptors slow-motion style of play, every point they allow weighs against them heavily. As for Archibald - if Moiso sucks, then Archibald sucks too. His numbers are even more anemic than Jerome's. He's a scrub, pretty much like Montross, Stewart, Bateer, and other centers that have produced very little for Toronto. If they plan on moving Bosh to PF, they need to bite the bullet and trade for a big-time center. Ratliff would be perfect for this team, I would give up anybody on that roster with the exception of Carter and Marshall. The rest of those guys are easily expendable, assuming the Hawks want what they're selling.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting starman85:</div><div class="quote_post">And you don't think that that just might be because Kevin O'Neal is misusing him? A guy with that much potential doesn't just 'suck' all of a sudden. </div> your right, he doesnt just suddenly "suck". but he was never good. he had a few good games in the playoffs last year. before that, where was he? same place he is now, at the end of the bench. i dont think coach is misusing him, iv watched him play, and he stinks up the place. he was given plenty of time in the beginning of the year, he became a liability on the court, hence he gets dnp/cd's.
Moiso has potential. He hasnt developed any potential and used any of his oppurtunities to his adanvage. he sucks.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting OgShowtime:</div><div class="quote_post"> As for Archibald - if Moiso sucks, then Archibald sucks too. His numbers are even more anemic than Jerome's. He's a scrub, pretty much like Montross, Stewart, Bateer, and other centers that have produced very little for Toronto. .</div> cept he does one thing none of those other guys do, he plays decent low post defense
