Re: Najera or Griffin(01-02 & 02-03 Season) Rok, I kinda took the idea from you from the Finley or Griffin topic. Just wanted to hear some debate on who you liked better on the team, compared to the 01-02 and 02-03 season because those were the only seasons they were on the same team. Najera stands out the most to me, some of you might know for obvious reasons, he went to OU. Neither of them stand out big on the stat sheets, but are both very very physical on the defence end. When they played together Najera has the hand on being a better rebounder. Griffin was more likely to play the roll of a starter, but they both split pretty even minutes with around 20 a game. Also both of them were guys to sub in for doing the dirty work, needed a hack-a-shaq? Put in Najera. Imo, these 2 players have some what of a similar style of playing style. The only way their surviving in the NBA is because their defence, the main reason Griff has a starting role right now with the Mavs. Like I said these players dont show on the stat sheets, but both can be big contributors to any team in the NBA when needed. To add to that they both have a spot on the <u>best</u> season the Mavericks franchise has ever had, 2002-2003
Re: Najera or Griffin(01-02 & 02-03 Season) Griff is having a bigger impact his 2nd go around with the Mavs, even though he started in his first stay as well. But I liked Najera better, because the guy was just a straight up hustle guy. And with our centers during that time, he stepped up and played center at times.Najera would be nice behind Dirk these days.
Re: Najera or Griffin(01-02 & 02-03 Season) I definitely don't like Najera at center but as a backup power foward he would be perfect.
Re: Najera or Griffin(01-02 & 02-03 Season) Najera wouldnt be needed at center these days. Mavs have struggled at center for along time. Nellie use to put Najera at center here and there. Those were some of the best times watching Najera play, going aginst elite centers in the NBA like Shaq and Yao(Did I just call Yao a elite center in the NBA?wft)
Re: Najera or Griffin(01-02 & 02-03 Season) Well he is, considering the c's in the era now.Also, Najera did a decent job while at center during our Raef/Bradley years. Not dissing those centers, but foul prone and Nellie's smallball limited them.And as Lazy said, he wouldn't play center with this team, strictly just backup Dirk. It's too bad he's locked up with Nugs.BTW, Josh Powell has been recalled with Van Horn's injury. He put up some great numbers with Fort Worth. It will be something to see how he does behind Dirk and how much that will play into next season. I think he can be a solid backup for Dirk in the future.
Re: Najera or Griffin(01-02 & 02-03 Season) I guess Avery doesn't have much confidence in him in that Dirk is getting overplayed and Griffin is getting all the backup PF minutes
Re: Najera or Griffin(01-02 & 02-03 Season) <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I guess Avery doesn't have much confidence in him in that Dirk is getting overplayed and Griffin is getting all the backup PF minutes</div>Avery seems to do that with the younger players, and it's irritating me a little. Especially with Harris, one mistake, Avery will sit him. Also, goes with Daniels minutes going up and down all year.
Re: Najera or Griffin(01-02 & 02-03 Season) I just don't understand Avery giving Van Horn so many minutes and being terrible and than not even letting Josh Powell play. Would it be so bad if he got 5-10 minutes a game? Also the way Avery shut down Daniels once Stackhouse came back. Avery is a very frustrating coach on his player rotation. I agree that Harris and Daniels deserve more minutes with Terry and Stackhouse getting less.
Re: Najera or Griffin(01-02 & 02-03 Season) <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I just don't understand Avery giving Van Horn so many minutes and being terrible and than not even letting Josh Powell play. Would it be so bad if he got 5-10 minutes a game?</div>Um, because Powell is as terrible as Van Horn is. Have you seen him play when the game isn't a blow out. He's too green right now. Too many rookies mistakes. Van Horn is just in a slump, but he can contribute when he's on. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Would it be so bad if he got 5-10 minutes a game? Also the way Avery shut down Daniels once Stackhouse came back.</div>Because Stack is a veteran and is the better player at this stage. He's got confidence in Stack, not in Daniels.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I agree that Harris and Daniels deserve more minutes with Terry and Stackhouse getting less.</div>Only Harris, the Harris/Terry backcourt is nice and both should be on the floor when it counts. Daniels will get squeezed by Howard, Stack and Griff if it's a defense situation.Daniels is easily the odd man out. Good thing he accepts it.
Re: Najera or Griffin(01-02 & 02-03 Season) Daniels>Stackhouse. Stackhouse has been shooting horrible lately, very turnover prone, and plays poor defense. Daniels is better off the dribble, good post player, and can play some really good on the ball defense. Griffin I feel should be the odd one out. He is as one dimensional as you get but Stackhouse has been very disappointing lately. Every time he tries to drive he seems to lose the ball.
Re: Najera or Griffin(01-02 & 02-03 Season) <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Daniels>Stackhouse. Stackhouse has been shooting horrible lately, very turnover prone, and plays poor defense. Daniels is better off the dribble, good post player, and can play some really good on the ball defense. Griffin I feel should be the odd one out. He is as one dimensional as you get but Stackhouse has been very disappointing lately. Every time he tries to drive he seems to lose the ball.</div>Daniels ain't greater then Stackhouse. Everything you say about Stack, Daniels does the same thing. Stack is a better shooter outside, Daniels is limited in range. Percentages may differ, but least Stack can hit a outside shot every once in a while. Daniels has only taken 10 3's, which should tell you about his 3pt shot.That's a joke better off the dribble? Stack gets to the line better then Daniels. Stack is as good as Daniels downlow, have you not seen Stack post up smaller players all this year?And the turnovers, are you kidding me, both are turnover prone. Least Stack doesn't have tunnel vision on fastbreaks. With Daniels, your not even guaranteed a easy basket. Also, Stack finishes way better then Daniels, how many layups has Daniels missed in his career?You overrate some of are young guys badly. Dampier is better then Diop, and Stack is better then Daniels. In the future, they will take over the respective spots but not now.
Re: Najera or Griffin(01-02 & 02-03 Season) Dampier isn't that great either. Stackhouse does not finish that great from inside. Daniels is more athletic and is smart enough not to take poor percentage shots. Have you seen Daniels's passing game lately? He is now creating for Dirk and other players. Daniels does turn it over as well but he is great slicing through the defense which I guess you don't get a lot of fouls against the opponent that way. Stackhouse forces bad shots and is not deserving of all the credit you are giving him. I could say they both don't fit this team though since they both are poor shooters from outside and Dallas needs someone that can hit outside at the 2. I think Terry would be the ideal 2 guard if he was 4 inches bigger. lol
Re: Najera or Griffin(01-02 & 02-03 Season) <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Dampier isn't that great either. Stackhouse does not finish that great from inside. Daniels is more athletic and is smart enough not to take poor percentage shots. Have you seen Daniels's passing game lately?</div>Their not great, but their better. Stack does finish better because he dunks it half the time. He goes stronger to the hoop. :HAHAHA: Daniels is smart enough to not take bad shots? Have you seen the stuff he throws up. Come on man. I agree though Daniels passing has improved.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Stackhouse forces bad shots and is not deserving of all the credit you are giving him.</div>What credit is that? That he's better then Daniels at this stage. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I could say they both don't fit this team though since they both are poor shooters from outside and Dallas needs someone that can hit outside at the 2. I think Terry would be the ideal 2 guard if he was 4 inches bigger. lol</div>I think Stack fits as the 6th man, Daniels/Griff the starter. But with those 2 starting, it's obviously our weak point of the line. Pierce would be nice here, but looking at 2 guards in the West, we can be worse off.
