Politics Nation “Too Broke” For Universal Healthcare To Spend $406 Billion More On F-35

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    I swear to the universe that says it is a news story and not an opinion piece.
     
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    Well at least Sly's 2nd link is an actual news story.
     
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    Took me a minute to realize that your first "news article" wasn't from a reputable organization like this link. Thought it was Bloomberg in fact.

    I tried to find out who runs blooms mag but I clicked the about us section and it just said there are 30 employees. Googled it and can't find anything about it.

    Not even a Wikipedia page. I did see a link to a Reddit page or something.

    Just the misleading title was enough to alert me to that something was wrong. I wonder how many people read crap like that and regurgitweet it every day.
     
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    C'mon, we need more Billion dollar aircraft carriers to extend their reach worldwide. Why not cheap drones from Israel instead of this dog shit plan?
     
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    I'd be in favor of that if they can fix the transporter. That thing always malfunctions. And maybe keep a backup supply of dilithium crystals onboard?

    barfo
     
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    No no no The real "second"enterprise that our Navy made. lol
     
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    "and improved survivability against projected threats"

    Man that sounds like a tall mound of bullshit.

    Then this one is not understandable at all.

    " Despite delays to the USS Gerald R. Ford's delivery, the Navy says that the Ford-class carriers will yield a $4 billion reduction per ship cost as compared to its predecessor, the Nimitz Class."

    The first Nimitz cost 2 billion, the last 6. How the hell does a Ford at 13 billion save a nickel? Forget 4 billion. I hear it saves in crew costs like in less crew, but the ship cost way more.
     
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    O&M on a carrier is about 6M per day, last I checked. Maybe they're using a 50yr lifecycle delta...?

    I did some analysis for next-gen Ohio in another life. Original estimates with all the upgrades was going to be ~8-10B per, decreasing over the class build. Maybe better, based on Virginia lessons learned. Congress (McCain, iirc) said something like "I'm not approving this until the cost starts with a 4" (i.e, 4.99B would be ok). I asked the dumb question of "If we just pulled the plans for another Ohio off the shelf and built is as-was to 1987 technology, how much would it cost?" Vendors did the math and came back with 5.2B.

    :dunno:
     
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    Maybe they mean $4B cheaper than it would cost to build another Nimitz today? Dunno, I'm just guessing.

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    Because we need to kill more than we need to save... BRILLIANT!!
     

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