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  1. Duckmyster

    Duckmyster JBB JustBBall Member

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    It seems that the 3 top players in this year draft are
    John Wall PG
    Evan Turner SG
    DeMarcus Cousins PF
    It is a done deal that the Warriors should draft John Wall if they get the number 1 pick regardless of Curry or Ellis. You always draft the best talent regardless of position and I would love to see all three guards together to see if they can play together. If they can then who do you trade Monta Curry or Wall? All three of them should net the Warriors a good player in return. If the Warriors pick 2nd do they draft Turner and try to trade Ellis or you keep him and let them see if they can co-exist. If the Warriors pick 3rd Cousins seems like a match made in heaven for the Warriors who are in a bad need of a legit PF who can rebound and has a low post game. To me it seems that the Warriors are actually in a good position to actually get a good player this year but, the Warriors being the Warriors it wouldn't surprised me if they pick 4th or lower. Still maybe this is the year that we actually get to draft a franchise game changer type of player.
     
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    It would be our dumb luck if this is the year we win the lottery. Wall won't work, at least not with curry and ellis, and all 3 of them are too talented to come off the bench, especially on a team like the Warriors. I think it would have to be Curry or Wall that goes. I know everyone wants to get rid of Monta but he's the closest thing to a 2 we've got. He's also been much better than I expected guarding 2s. In a Wall/Curry backcourt, who is the PG?
    Personally, I like Curry and would prefer to trade Wall for a PF or C.

    I really hope we get #2 and take Turner and play him at SF.

    I'm not so sure about Cousins. I don't know what it is about him but I'm not confident the Warriors can develop a very immature (according to Calipari) one and one big. He won't play many minutes out of the gate here and i could see him sulking and becoming a cancer. I think I'd prefer Favors who is more of a project but really isn't eexpected to play much right away and could fit better as a running PF instead of a halfcourt guy like Cousins.
     
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    Shapecity S2/JBB Teamster Staff Member Administrator

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    I wouldn't rule out a three guard lineup with Ellis-Curry-Wall on the floor at the same time.
     
  4. HiRez

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    With Nelson you never know. But if it were me, I'd trade Ellis and then see how it shook out between Wall and Curry. If they can't play together, either should be a valuable trade chip. But I sure would love to have Turner or Cousins too. Turner is probably ready to play from day 1.
     
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    Run BJM Heavy lies the crown. Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Haven't been able to keep up with college ball much this year but I fuggin LOVE Evan Turner. Wall looked real good from what I saw. I reckon if we get the top pick we would have to take him and see how he fits in with Curry (by Monta). If we get Turner, hes big enough to play the 3 and a Curry/Monta/Turner 1-2-3 is very feasible, only problem is that there's not enough ball to go around for the three of them. Again, Monta would have to go since the other two are great playmakers.

    I'm skeptical of Cousins but very, VERY intrigued by Hassan Whiteside. Dude will be a top 5 pick by next year. Grab him up ASAP.
     
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    Yup, like everyone else, I'm a fan of Wall and Turner, but a bit more skeptical of the other guys now, unlike what I said over the summer. So basically, if we get stuck at the 3rd draft position again, it goes from sure thing to a gamble of choosing the best player among the big men. I thought the big men would really shine this year by making a leap, but instead most of the big name big men only proved that they could repeat their performances and meet expectations (though there's still season left of course), not surpass them. Cousins in particular has been disappointing to me because of his Basketball IQ/fundamentals despite putting up big numbers. But you can't just pass up the potential of Favors or Cousins because someone like say, Wesley Johnson, looks really stable right now.

    I've only seen clips of Whiteside (who watches Marshall games?) but everyone says he's really raw. That tag has scared me off recently, but of course you can never pass up talent.
     
  7. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    If any of these bigs are good defensive players, I will take them.
     
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    Yeah but does "defensive big" sound like a player that Don Nelson would take to you? Now "lanky outside shooting Euro"...

    I can see Nelson taking Turner though, Nelson likes versatile and Turner can pretty much do it all, except he does need to work on his range.
     
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  9. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    And that's why Nelson probably would never win a championship if it was up to him. I'd bet he'd still pick Nowitzki over a raw, but unstoppable presence like Dwight Howard. I love Nowitzki, but I'd rather have a presence in the paint that can beat up on both power forwards and centers.

    I like Turner. I'll take anyone Joe Johnson or Brandon Roy or Danny Granger like. They don't have to be as athletic as Granger, but definitely at least quick as Johnson or Roy. The skill level and veteran savvy is more important.
     
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    Not really sure I agree with you there. Nelly drafted Webber when he had the chance, and Dirk was the 9th pick in a solid draft where he's arguably the best player taken.
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Yeah and he wanted Webber to play center even though he really wasn't a center. I'm saying he'd rather have a Dirk guy than your classical post player. Even when Nelly did play a center, he'd play guys like Raef La Frentz or Shawn Bradley. It's great that these bigs can shoot from the long range, but I'd rather have a center with limited scoring range, but can hit the glass, rebound, and protect the paint. I like what we already have with Biedrins, he just needs to get more muscle because looks weak right now. Turiaf's been doing the stuff I like to see. Hopefully Nelly can use him more and Chris Hunter.
     
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    Not really true, If you remember, he traded for Rony Seikely (not the best center out there) but that team was balanced and ready to make a run for the title...until Webber flipped. Webber was going to play the 4, but he didn't like it when Nellie kept benching him from shooting 3's.

    I think Nellie likes guys that know how to play within themselves. True, he likes big guys that can stretch the floor. The perfect 4 for Nelly would be a guy that can run the floor and pass out of a double team. As for Dirk, I think a lot of GMs would rather have Dirk than the classic post player, unless that guy was a dominant post player. But your point is taken. I think Nellie stays away from post players, unless they can dominate the post or run the floor. And most importantly pass the ball.
     
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